1 00:00:37,240 --> 00:00:35,860 we don't want to waste our rocket 2 00:00:38,919 --> 00:00:37,250 the thing is three years to make the 3 00:00:41,349 --> 00:00:38,929 rocket on the 15 minutes to use it I 4 00:00:43,270 --> 00:00:41,359 don't waste my shot here when we started 5 00:00:44,709 --> 00:00:43,280 seeing this really good data this clock 6 00:00:46,899 --> 00:00:44,719 started counting down and that's when 7 00:00:48,850 --> 00:00:46,909 everyone realized this is gonna happen 8 00:00:50,229 --> 00:00:48,860 you're filled with trepidation oh my 9 00:00:54,849 --> 00:00:50,239 gosh look at this thing that I'd evolved 10 00:00:56,920 --> 00:00:54,859 is it gonna work after all this it is 11 00:01:00,039 --> 00:00:56,930 really really challenging and 12 00:01:03,430 --> 00:01:00,049 nerve-racking at that point at t-minus 13 00:01:14,430 --> 00:01:03,440 one minute all of us ran out 14 00:01:17,440 --> 00:01:14,440 [Music] 15 00:01:18,730 --> 00:01:17,450 hey everyone today we're live at NASA's 16 00:01:20,590 --> 00:01:18,740 Goddard Space Flight Center in Greenbelt 17 00:01:22,690 --> 00:01:20,600 Maryland and we're here with a team of 18 00:01:24,850 --> 00:01:22,700 experts to talk about sounding rockets 19 00:01:26,500 --> 00:01:24,860 sounding rockets were NASA's first space 20 00:01:28,210 --> 00:01:26,510 vehicles but they remain one of the 21 00:01:30,700 --> 00:01:28,220 agency's most important tools for 22 00:01:32,680 --> 00:01:30,710 cutting-edge science today the footage 23 00:01:34,090 --> 00:01:32,690 you just saw was from a recent sounding 24 00:01:35,590 --> 00:01:34,100 rocket mission that launched last year 25 00:01:37,690 --> 00:01:35,600 from an island in the middle of the 26 00:01:39,580 --> 00:01:37,700 Arctic Ocean but it was just the first 27 00:01:42,190 --> 00:01:39,590 mission of a larger series called the 28 00:01:44,200 --> 00:01:42,200 grand challenge initiative cusp in fact 29 00:01:45,969 --> 00:01:44,210 people are there right now back on the 30 00:01:48,640 --> 00:01:45,979 island preparing for launches that are 31 00:01:50,350 --> 00:01:48,650 coming up in just a week today we'll be 32 00:01:52,359 --> 00:01:50,360 joined by scientists from bat mission 33 00:01:54,580 --> 00:01:52,369 and other experts from NASA's sounding 34 00:01:55,530 --> 00:01:54,590 rockets program here's the show that we 35 00:01:58,120 --> 00:01:55,540 have for you today 36 00:01:59,380 --> 00:01:58,130 first we'll talk all about what sounding 37 00:02:00,969 --> 00:01:59,390 Rockets are and the groundbreaking 38 00:02:03,370 --> 00:02:00,979 research that they've contributed to 39 00:02:05,530 --> 00:02:03,380 science next we'll talk about what makes 40 00:02:07,270 --> 00:02:05,540 sounding Rockets unique and why they can 41 00:02:09,850 --> 00:02:07,280 do science that no other launch vehicle 42 00:02:11,680 --> 00:02:09,860 can will cover how sounding Rockets are 43 00:02:14,080 --> 00:02:11,690 advancing space science and technology 44 00:02:15,910 --> 00:02:14,090 and we'll take you inside NASA's Wallops 45 00:02:16,500 --> 00:02:15,920 Flight Facility the place where it all 46 00:02:18,490 --> 00:02:16,510 happens 47 00:02:20,140 --> 00:02:18,500 finally it will go behind the scenes 48 00:02:21,670 --> 00:02:20,150 with an Arctic sounding rocket mission 49 00:02:23,650 --> 00:02:21,680 and learn what it's like to launch one 50 00:02:26,050 --> 00:02:23,660 if you have any questions throughout the 51 00:02:27,640 --> 00:02:26,060 show use the hashtag ask NASA in the 52 00:02:31,510 --> 00:02:27,650 comments and we'll answer some of them 53 00:02:39,540 --> 00:02:35,830 [Music] 54 00:02:42,270 --> 00:02:39,550 [Applause] 55 00:02:45,340 --> 00:02:42,280 [Music] 56 00:02:46,930 --> 00:02:45,350 I'm now joined by Rob faff the project 57 00:02:50,020 --> 00:02:46,940 scientist for NASA's sounding rockets 58 00:02:52,360 --> 00:02:50,030 program and a couple parts of sounding 59 00:02:54,580 --> 00:02:52,370 rockets Rob tell us a little bit more 60 00:02:55,810 --> 00:02:54,590 about what Sonny Rockets are and how 61 00:02:56,530 --> 00:02:55,820 they differ from other kinds of 62 00:02:58,510 --> 00:02:56,540 spacecraft 63 00:03:00,730 --> 00:02:58,520 sure well sounding Rockets are 64 00:03:03,000 --> 00:03:00,740 spacecraft they launched into space by 65 00:03:05,200 --> 00:03:03,010 NASA to carry out scientific 66 00:03:07,720 --> 00:03:05,210 investigations and also to test new 67 00:03:09,520 --> 00:03:07,730 instruments they differ from satellites 68 00:03:11,620 --> 00:03:09,530 and that satellites go into space and 69 00:03:12,940 --> 00:03:11,630 orbit the earth and they can last for 70 00:03:15,760 --> 00:03:12,950 many many years 71 00:03:17,740 --> 00:03:15,770 usually in one region of one altitude 72 00:03:20,590 --> 00:03:17,750 region the sound markets on the other 73 00:03:22,270 --> 00:03:20,600 hand a follow pack go up into space and 74 00:03:24,820 --> 00:03:22,280 come down we call them suborbital 75 00:03:27,580 --> 00:03:24,830 platforms so we follow parabolic 76 00:03:29,440 --> 00:03:27,590 trajectories and is a more limited time 77 00:03:33,460 --> 00:03:29,450 only 10 or 15 minutes but it's very 78 00:03:36,430 --> 00:03:33,470 focused investigations I should also I 79 00:03:37,990 --> 00:03:36,440 could say this NASA has has said as had 80 00:03:40,720 --> 00:03:38,000 sounding Rockets really since the onset 81 00:03:42,610 --> 00:03:40,730 of the agency over 16 years ago they've 82 00:03:44,650 --> 00:03:42,620 served the service very well in 83 00:03:47,350 --> 00:03:44,660 scientific community supporting such 84 00:03:50,199 --> 00:03:47,360 disciplines as astronomy solar physics 85 00:03:52,360 --> 00:03:50,209 and also geo space geo spaces that 86 00:03:54,790 --> 00:03:52,370 region around the earth that includes 87 00:03:57,010 --> 00:03:54,800 the ionosphere the upper atmosphere it's 88 00:03:59,650 --> 00:03:57,020 where for example the aurora is formed 89 00:04:02,170 --> 00:03:59,660 and that region is ideal for study with 90 00:04:05,170 --> 00:04:02,180 sounding rockets we also look at 91 00:04:06,760 --> 00:04:05,180 planetary reentry systems and in special 92 00:04:09,550 --> 00:04:06,770 projects such as that have served by the 93 00:04:11,320 --> 00:04:09,560 sounding rocket program I just want to 94 00:04:14,470 --> 00:04:11,330 say people are always asking me what 95 00:04:16,539 --> 00:04:14,480 does sounding y sounding right sounding 96 00:04:18,220 --> 00:04:16,549 is actually an old nautical term which 97 00:04:20,020 --> 00:04:18,230 means to take measurements of the depth 98 00:04:22,180 --> 00:04:20,030 of the ocean below you take soundings 99 00:04:23,860 --> 00:04:22,190 and so essentially a sounding rocket is 100 00:04:27,040 --> 00:04:23,870 simply a rocket that takes measurements 101 00:04:29,230 --> 00:04:27,050 got it and we have a couple parts of the 102 00:04:30,940 --> 00:04:29,240 sounding rocket here in the studio this 103 00:04:32,650 --> 00:04:30,950 one looks like it's a little worse for 104 00:04:35,290 --> 00:04:32,660 the wear tell me more about what this 105 00:04:37,570 --> 00:04:35,300 guy is okay this is a nose cone it 106 00:04:39,070 --> 00:04:37,580 served us very well on a rocket that was 107 00:04:42,040 --> 00:04:39,080 launched from white sands missile range 108 00:04:43,990 --> 00:04:42,050 and that rocket was recovered and the 109 00:04:46,150 --> 00:04:44,000 the nose cone was also recovered as you 110 00:04:47,860 --> 00:04:46,160 can see it got a few uh a few dents we 111 00:04:49,420 --> 00:04:47,870 would never fly this again but 112 00:04:52,120 --> 00:04:49,430 nevertheless this is what a nose cone 113 00:04:53,650 --> 00:04:52,130 looks like the rocket over the sound the 114 00:04:55,780 --> 00:04:53,660 payload over here on my left 115 00:04:57,610 --> 00:04:55,790 has a again the nose cone on top this is 116 00:05:00,400 --> 00:04:57,620 one of our smaller payloads and then 117 00:05:02,770 --> 00:05:00,410 this week this segment here includes the 118 00:05:04,240 --> 00:05:02,780 instruments and the telemetry system and 119 00:05:06,160 --> 00:05:04,250 batteries and that sort of thing so this 120 00:05:07,930 --> 00:05:06,170 would then go on top of a motor which of 121 00:05:10,150 --> 00:05:07,940 course isn't here with us in the studio 122 00:05:12,070 --> 00:05:10,160 so sounding Rockets launch above the 123 00:05:13,060 --> 00:05:12,080 atmosphere but why do it why is it 124 00:05:15,550 --> 00:05:13,070 important to get above the atmosphere 125 00:05:17,680 --> 00:05:15,560 well it's extremely important 126 00:05:19,090 --> 00:05:17,690 particularly in the fields of astronomy 127 00:05:20,620 --> 00:05:19,100 and solar physics because you want to 128 00:05:22,630 --> 00:05:20,630 look at wavelengths which are absorbed 129 00:05:24,670 --> 00:05:22,640 by the atmosphere so you have to if you 130 00:05:26,530 --> 00:05:24,680 want to look at ultraviolet radiation 131 00:05:28,750 --> 00:05:26,540 for example you need to be above the 132 00:05:30,190 --> 00:05:28,760 atmosphere that to look at those and you 133 00:05:32,320 --> 00:05:30,200 mentioned that they they follow an 134 00:05:34,540 --> 00:05:32,330 elliptical trajectory so they they fall 135 00:05:36,190 --> 00:05:34,550 back down and how much time do they 136 00:05:38,700 --> 00:05:36,200 actually get to do against actually it's 137 00:05:41,830 --> 00:05:38,710 a parabolic trajectory 138 00:05:44,950 --> 00:05:41,840 depends on the apogee you could get 5 10 139 00:05:46,480 --> 00:05:44,960 and maybe 15 minutes or technical that 140 00:05:47,980 --> 00:05:46,490 doesn't sound like much time but 141 00:05:50,440 --> 00:05:47,990 sounding Rockets can actually accomplish 142 00:05:51,730 --> 00:05:50,450 a lot in just a few minutes here's a 143 00:05:53,350 --> 00:05:51,740 brief video about the history of 144 00:05:54,760 --> 00:05:53,360 sounding rocket research including some 145 00:05:58,330 --> 00:05:54,770 of the groundbreaking achievements that 146 00:06:01,510 --> 00:05:58,340 they've made we've been flying 147 00:06:04,420 --> 00:06:01,520 instruments on balloons for decades and 148 00:06:06,760 --> 00:06:04,430 the more we flew the more we learned 149 00:06:08,920 --> 00:06:06,770 about the atmosphere but we couldn't go 150 00:06:11,590 --> 00:06:08,930 that high and so we knew there was an 151 00:06:13,990 --> 00:06:11,600 awful lot more to discover scientists 152 00:06:16,600 --> 00:06:14,000 started to develop rockets in the 1930s 153 00:06:19,150 --> 00:06:16,610 but a big incentive to explore the upper 154 00:06:21,820 --> 00:06:19,160 atmosphere was during World War 2 when 155 00:06:24,250 --> 00:06:21,830 the u.s. captured Germany's v2 rockets a 156 00:06:26,830 --> 00:06:24,260 long-range missile that could fly to 157 00:06:28,390 --> 00:06:26,840 these upper regions seeing that the 158 00:06:31,120 --> 00:06:28,400 Germans had created this sophisticated 159 00:06:32,890 --> 00:06:31,130 rocket scientists from the US Navy were 160 00:06:35,170 --> 00:06:32,900 motivated to learn how to build their 161 00:06:37,180 --> 00:06:35,180 own a number of the early sounding 162 00:06:39,610 --> 00:06:37,190 rocket technologies and the experiments 163 00:06:42,040 --> 00:06:39,620 that they're designed to do are largely 164 00:06:44,950 --> 00:06:42,050 for military applications they want to 165 00:06:46,960 --> 00:06:44,960 know the nature of that medium through 166 00:06:49,450 --> 00:06:46,970 which missiles would eventually travel 167 00:06:52,840 --> 00:06:49,460 so the sounding rocket really became the 168 00:06:54,760 --> 00:06:52,850 vehicle of choice after years of proving 169 00:06:58,810 --> 00:06:54,770 the scientific worth of sounding rockets 170 00:07:00,250 --> 00:06:58,820 in 1958 NASA's sounding rockets program 171 00:07:02,770 --> 00:07:00,260 was born 172 00:07:04,990 --> 00:07:02,780 these small but versatile rockets have 173 00:07:07,450 --> 00:07:05,000 founded entirely new fields of science 174 00:07:10,180 --> 00:07:07,460 ultraviolet x-ray and gamma-ray 175 00:07:12,790 --> 00:07:10,190 astronomy which inevitably led to more 176 00:07:14,350 --> 00:07:12,800 discoveries a sounding rocket made the 177 00:07:17,440 --> 00:07:14,360 first detection of molecular hydrogen 178 00:07:19,540 --> 00:07:17,450 his face sounding Rockets confirmed the 179 00:07:21,850 --> 00:07:19,550 theory that the Aurora will caused by 180 00:07:24,190 --> 00:07:21,860 beams of electrons colliding with our 181 00:07:26,500 --> 00:07:24,200 atmosphere they've launched over 182 00:07:31,810 --> 00:07:26,510 lightning storms to study rare phenomena 183 00:07:34,000 --> 00:07:31,820 such as chess and sprites in 1987 when a 184 00:07:36,760 --> 00:07:34,010 supernova suddenly appeared in the sky 185 00:07:39,910 --> 00:07:36,770 Sarla rockets were among the first to 186 00:07:41,190 --> 00:07:39,920 study it Sani Rockets captured samples 187 00:07:43,810 --> 00:07:41,200 from the hole in the ozone layer 188 00:07:46,630 --> 00:07:43,820 critical to understanding how the hole 189 00:07:49,830 --> 00:07:46,640 formed today they continued to push the 190 00:07:52,820 --> 00:07:49,840 boundaries of what we can see and learn 191 00:07:55,350 --> 00:07:52,830 [Music] 192 00:07:57,390 --> 00:07:55,360 we're now joined by two other sounding 193 00:07:59,310 --> 00:07:57,400 rocket experts Kathy Hesh is the 194 00:08:01,110 --> 00:07:59,320 technology manager for the national 195 00:08:03,810 --> 00:08:01,120 national sounding rockets program and 196 00:08:05,400 --> 00:08:03,820 Doug Rowland he's the lead scientist for 197 00:08:07,830 --> 00:08:05,410 the Arctic sounding rocket mission that 198 00:08:09,480 --> 00:08:07,840 you saw at the top of the show now all 199 00:08:11,460 --> 00:08:09,490 of you have launched sandy rocket 200 00:08:13,500 --> 00:08:11,470 missions before out of all the different 201 00:08:15,240 --> 00:08:13,510 kinds of spacecraft you can use why do 202 00:08:17,490 --> 00:08:15,250 you keep coming back to Sony rockets for 203 00:08:19,410 --> 00:08:17,500 your research well for my own research 204 00:08:22,860 --> 00:08:19,420 is really to look at us at that region 205 00:08:24,870 --> 00:08:22,870 of space which is actually about between 206 00:08:26,670 --> 00:08:24,880 it's too high for measurements with 207 00:08:28,500 --> 00:08:26,680 balloons and too low for satellites so 208 00:08:31,200 --> 00:08:28,510 that's why we use Rockets also you want 209 00:08:32,700 --> 00:08:31,210 to get the vertical profiles my personal 210 00:08:34,350 --> 00:08:32,710 research is with the interface between 211 00:08:36,930 --> 00:08:34,360 the ionosphere and the upper atmosphere 212 00:08:39,540 --> 00:08:36,940 which occurs at around 100 kilometers or 213 00:08:41,610 --> 00:08:39,550 60 miles up some of the most important 214 00:08:43,440 --> 00:08:41,620 processes in geo space happen there is 215 00:08:46,080 --> 00:08:43,450 really one of the most happening is 216 00:08:48,090 --> 00:08:46,090 places in all of geo space and you can 217 00:08:49,590 --> 00:08:48,100 only measure it with sounding Rockets so 218 00:08:52,320 --> 00:08:49,600 of course we're gonna use rockets to do 219 00:08:54,090 --> 00:08:52,330 that research right and and as you go up 220 00:08:56,880 --> 00:08:54,100 and come back down you're also able to 221 00:09:00,960 --> 00:08:56,890 see measurements that vary along the 222 00:09:02,820 --> 00:09:00,970 vertical right but and and we in the 223 00:09:04,530 --> 00:09:02,830 last video that the viewers just saw we 224 00:09:07,050 --> 00:09:04,540 also talked a little bit about the ozone 225 00:09:07,980 --> 00:09:07,060 layer yes okay right exactly that first 226 00:09:09,900 --> 00:09:07,990 of all I just want to emphasize that 227 00:09:11,670 --> 00:09:09,910 rockets give you the vertical profiles 228 00:09:13,380 --> 00:09:11,680 just as you said up leg and down like 229 00:09:15,150 --> 00:09:13,390 which you can't get on the sounding with 230 00:09:17,460 --> 00:09:15,160 on a satellite at least with direct 231 00:09:19,980 --> 00:09:17,470 measurement but in view of the ozone 232 00:09:21,570 --> 00:09:19,990 common sounding rockets also enable us 233 00:09:23,640 --> 00:09:21,580 to take samples of the upper atmosphere 234 00:09:26,340 --> 00:09:23,650 either in the ozone or maybe noctilucent 235 00:09:27,930 --> 00:09:26,350 clouds recover those samples bring them 236 00:09:30,750 --> 00:09:27,940 back to the laboratory for detailed 237 00:09:32,580 --> 00:09:30,760 study Doug I know that you've launched 238 00:09:34,110 --> 00:09:32,590 through the Northern Lights and you're 239 00:09:36,000 --> 00:09:34,120 not the only sounding rocket researcher 240 00:09:37,710 --> 00:09:36,010 to do that what is it about sounding 241 00:09:40,020 --> 00:09:37,720 rockets that makes them so useful or 242 00:09:42,030 --> 00:09:40,030 suitable for auroral research well miles 243 00:09:43,560 --> 00:09:42,040 you mentioned where we go where the 244 00:09:45,870 --> 00:09:43,570 science is you know that's one thing we 245 00:09:47,790 --> 00:09:45,880 do in northern lights you don't see 246 00:09:50,670 --> 00:09:47,800 those in Washington DC but you go to 247 00:09:52,500 --> 00:09:50,680 Alaska or Norway or Canada and you can 248 00:09:54,300 --> 00:09:52,510 see brilliant displays the things about 249 00:09:56,130 --> 00:09:54,310 those rural displays is they're very 250 00:09:58,230 --> 00:09:56,140 kind of sudden they change the dance 251 00:09:59,220 --> 00:09:58,240 around and when they do that you've got 252 00:10:01,560 --> 00:09:59,230 to be in the right spot at the right 253 00:10:03,540 --> 00:10:01,570 time or you're gonna miss it and so what 254 00:10:05,460 --> 00:10:03,550 we do is we set up our rockets we wait 255 00:10:06,720 --> 00:10:05,470 for the roar it's almost like you 256 00:10:07,830 --> 00:10:06,730 you're gonna hunting blind or something 257 00:10:10,320 --> 00:10:07,840 trying to wait for that Aurora to come 258 00:10:11,940 --> 00:10:10,330 out than you then you go and I think the 259 00:10:13,290 --> 00:10:11,950 sunrise provide an opportunity for you 260 00:10:16,710 --> 00:10:13,300 to kind of do that targeted research 261 00:10:18,090 --> 00:10:16,720 right and going along with that it's you 262 00:10:21,480 --> 00:10:18,100 could go to all these different places 263 00:10:23,130 --> 00:10:21,490 right I mean you're going to Norway in 264 00:10:25,530 --> 00:10:23,140 an earlier version twenty early 265 00:10:27,060 --> 00:10:25,540 emissions say more about that well we go 266 00:10:29,090 --> 00:10:27,070 to Norway we went to Norway with our 267 00:10:31,350 --> 00:10:29,100 mission because that was a particular 268 00:10:32,760 --> 00:10:31,360 magnetic field configuration a 269 00:10:34,680 --> 00:10:32,770 particular region of the earth we wanted 270 00:10:36,480 --> 00:10:34,690 to study but we've been launching at 271 00:10:38,250 --> 00:10:36,490 Wallops Flight Facility in Virginia one 272 00:10:39,630 --> 00:10:38,260 of the thunderstorms we've launched from 273 00:10:41,970 --> 00:10:39,640 White Sands Missile Range people who 274 00:10:43,980 --> 00:10:41,980 study different astronomical 275 00:10:45,960 --> 00:10:43,990 observations we've gone to Peru or 276 00:10:47,370 --> 00:10:45,970 Marshall Islands it just we were in the 277 00:10:50,130 --> 00:10:47,380 world kind of wherever the science as we 278 00:10:51,600 --> 00:10:50,140 go now Kathy you've been involved in 279 00:10:52,890 --> 00:10:51,610 tons of different sounding rocket 280 00:10:55,800 --> 00:10:52,900 missions that have come through white 281 00:10:57,780 --> 00:10:55,810 through Wallops Flight Facility tell us 282 00:10:59,040 --> 00:10:57,790 more what you've noticed about sounding 283 00:11:01,650 --> 00:10:59,050 rocket missions that makes them unique 284 00:11:04,650 --> 00:11:01,660 sahni rocket missions really inspire o 285 00:11:07,020 --> 00:11:04,660 inspire innovation and ambition among 286 00:11:10,260 --> 00:11:07,030 the science community they are one of 287 00:11:11,970 --> 00:11:10,270 the most low costs and quick platforms 288 00:11:13,320 --> 00:11:11,980 that you can use to get into space and 289 00:11:14,700 --> 00:11:13,330 it's really interesting to see how all 290 00:11:16,950 --> 00:11:14,710 the different science disciplines 291 00:11:18,560 --> 00:11:16,960 utilize sounding rockets to do this 292 00:11:21,720 --> 00:11:18,570 cutting-edge science that they do 293 00:11:24,410 --> 00:11:21,730 they're about 40 to 50 sounding rocket 294 00:11:26,820 --> 00:11:24,420 missions in progress at any given time 295 00:11:28,650 --> 00:11:26,830 annually we launched about 18 missions a 296 00:11:31,410 --> 00:11:28,660 year from launch sites all over the 297 00:11:33,360 --> 00:11:31,420 world and a typical mission life cycle 298 00:11:35,910 --> 00:11:33,370 is about on the order of two years for a 299 00:11:38,310 --> 00:11:35,920 new mission for missions where payloads 300 00:11:40,440 --> 00:11:38,320 already exist and we can refine they can 301 00:11:42,150 --> 00:11:40,450 be done in as little as six to twelve 302 00:11:44,160 --> 00:11:42,160 months so a relatively short timeframe 303 00:11:46,140 --> 00:11:44,170 as I mentioned before sanding Rockets 304 00:11:47,520 --> 00:11:46,150 are also extremely cost effective the 305 00:11:49,140 --> 00:11:47,530 average cost for a sounding rocket 306 00:11:50,670 --> 00:11:49,150 mission is on the order of about two 307 00:11:52,890 --> 00:11:50,680 million dollars and there are kind of 308 00:11:56,520 --> 00:11:52,900 three main things that keep us low cost 309 00:11:58,350 --> 00:11:56,530 we utilize commercial I'm sorry military 310 00:12:00,240 --> 00:11:58,360 surplus rocket motors those are motors 311 00:12:02,640 --> 00:12:00,250 that the military no longer needs or 312 00:12:06,030 --> 00:12:02,650 once we use commercial off-the-shelf 313 00:12:08,550 --> 00:12:06,040 components and we recover about half of 314 00:12:10,410 --> 00:12:08,560 the payloads that we fly so we'll launch 315 00:12:13,140 --> 00:12:10,420 them we'll go pick them up on a 316 00:12:15,030 --> 00:12:13,150 helicopter or on a boat refurbish the 317 00:12:16,800 --> 00:12:15,040 instruments and the support systems and 318 00:12:18,630 --> 00:12:16,810 reef line again and some of our pelas 319 00:12:21,360 --> 00:12:18,640 have flown three four or five times look 320 00:12:22,740 --> 00:12:21,370 different targets of opportunity that's 321 00:12:24,690 --> 00:12:22,750 a really important point actually the 322 00:12:26,400 --> 00:12:24,700 the low-cost and the quick turnaround of 323 00:12:28,020 --> 00:12:26,410 sounding rocket missions is one of the 324 00:12:30,120 --> 00:12:28,030 things that makes them to place where 325 00:12:32,520 --> 00:12:30,130 the latest ideas and newest technology 326 00:12:34,350 --> 00:12:32,530 are often first tested out a great 327 00:12:36,270 --> 00:12:34,360 recent example comes from the recent 328 00:12:39,230 --> 00:12:36,280 hi-c mission which stands for 329 00:12:42,000 --> 00:12:39,240 high-resolution coronal imager telescope 330 00:12:44,130 --> 00:12:42,010 NASA researchers mounted this telescope 331 00:12:45,930 --> 00:12:44,140 on a sounding rocket launched up into 332 00:12:47,250 --> 00:12:45,940 space and looked at the Sun and when 333 00:12:48,900 --> 00:12:47,260 they did they saw something that had 334 00:12:52,860 --> 00:12:48,910 never been seen before let's take a 335 00:12:54,780 --> 00:12:52,870 quick video view about that now so one 336 00:12:56,910 --> 00:12:54,790 of the questions in solar physics is is 337 00:12:59,550 --> 00:12:56,920 how is the kroehner the atmosphere the 338 00:13:01,650 --> 00:12:59,560 Sun she did you want to know if it's 339 00:13:03,900 --> 00:13:01,660 caused by the braids in the magnetic 340 00:13:05,520 --> 00:13:03,910 field or is it simply caused by waves 341 00:13:07,650 --> 00:13:05,530 the problem is that you look at the 342 00:13:09,330 --> 00:13:07,660 Sun's corona and images it doesn't look 343 00:13:11,580 --> 00:13:09,340 particularly braided it looks kind of 344 00:13:13,230 --> 00:13:11,590 you know combed almost the structures 345 00:13:14,730 --> 00:13:13,240 that you see don't click they crisscross 346 00:13:17,850 --> 00:13:14,740 or startle around each other anything 347 00:13:18,900 --> 00:13:17,860 maybe the braids are just below the 348 00:13:20,910 --> 00:13:18,910 resolution of our current 349 00:13:22,650 --> 00:13:20,920 instrumentation so we both hi see this 350 00:13:24,360 --> 00:13:22,660 high-resolution imagery and one of our 351 00:13:25,700 --> 00:13:24,370 goals was whether because you breathing 352 00:13:28,369 --> 00:13:25,710 or not 353 00:13:30,689 --> 00:13:28,379 [Music] 354 00:13:33,509 --> 00:13:30,699 so we're all in the car on the way back 355 00:13:35,280 --> 00:13:33,519 from white sands back to Las Cruces I'm 356 00:13:36,809 --> 00:13:35,290 in the passenger seat the pee is in the 357 00:13:39,420 --> 00:13:36,819 in the driver's seat Jonathan Sartain 358 00:13:40,800 --> 00:13:39,430 and I'm a little laptop and I'm looking 359 00:13:43,710 --> 00:13:40,810 at the data for the first time and we 360 00:13:45,869 --> 00:13:43,720 see a brain and on the drive Jonathan 361 00:13:47,309 --> 00:13:45,879 pulls over we call everybody else well 362 00:13:49,139 --> 00:13:47,319 if we see you Friday we see Frank were 363 00:13:50,819 --> 00:13:49,149 so excited and then Jonathan's like why 364 00:13:52,590 --> 00:13:50,829 am i driving you need to surprise so I 365 00:13:53,819 --> 00:13:52,600 can look at the data but that was our 366 00:13:55,019 --> 00:13:53,829 first time that we'd zoom in any 367 00:14:00,150 --> 00:13:55,029 frightening and we actually got a nature 368 00:14:01,799 --> 00:14:00,160 paper from that result sounding rocket 369 00:14:03,629 --> 00:14:01,809 missions can be developed in really 370 00:14:05,400 --> 00:14:03,639 quick time periods as we mentioned 371 00:14:07,350 --> 00:14:05,410 earlier sometimes that's a shortest six 372 00:14:10,139 --> 00:14:07,360 months and this really makes them an 373 00:14:11,999 --> 00:14:10,149 ideal platform for capturing brief 374 00:14:14,610 --> 00:14:12,009 events and also testing out some of the 375 00:14:15,989 --> 00:14:14,620 latest and newest technology Cathy and 376 00:14:18,840 --> 00:14:15,999 Stephen you guys can speak more directly 377 00:14:20,730 --> 00:14:18,850 to this Stephen ear and astrophysicist 378 00:14:22,619 --> 00:14:20,740 at Johns Hopkins University and you've 379 00:14:24,540 --> 00:14:22,629 been using sounding rockets for your 380 00:14:26,610 --> 00:14:24,550 research for a long time 381 00:14:28,439 --> 00:14:26,620 I understand one common feature of your 382 00:14:31,379 --> 00:14:28,449 missions is you're usually testing out 383 00:14:33,509 --> 00:14:31,389 some new tech that is is being developed 384 00:14:36,090 --> 00:14:33,519 for bigger missions many years in the 385 00:14:38,100 --> 00:14:36,100 future and you've even done crazy things 386 00:14:40,139 --> 00:14:38,110 like chase after comets could you say 387 00:14:43,319 --> 00:14:40,149 more about that sure miles 388 00:14:46,259 --> 00:14:43,329 targets of opportunity or a unique niche 389 00:14:48,389 --> 00:14:46,269 for signing rockets they allow us to 390 00:14:50,519 --> 00:14:48,399 mount a mission on a very short 391 00:14:53,040 --> 00:14:50,529 timescale see it's short of six months 392 00:14:57,119 --> 00:14:53,050 or so and follow-up a unique 393 00:15:00,480 --> 00:14:57,129 astronomical event I've been doing UV 394 00:15:02,369 --> 00:15:00,490 astronomy from sámi Rockets for a number 395 00:15:05,610 --> 00:15:02,379 of years going after comets in 396 00:15:07,429 --> 00:15:05,620 particular typically when you go after a 397 00:15:09,150 --> 00:15:07,439 comment you're using a spectroscopic 398 00:15:11,220 --> 00:15:09,160 application where you're looking through 399 00:15:14,519 --> 00:15:11,230 a very narrow little window to take 400 00:15:16,280 --> 00:15:14,529 narrow pictures of the comet in many 401 00:15:19,889 --> 00:15:16,290 different wavelengths 402 00:15:22,860 --> 00:15:19,899 right now on for instance we did that in 403 00:15:26,309 --> 00:15:22,870 1997 with comet hale-bopp it was a very 404 00:15:27,989 --> 00:15:26,319 successful mission later on we've 405 00:15:31,290 --> 00:15:27,999 decided that it would be good to be able 406 00:15:32,939 --> 00:15:31,300 to sample larger regions of around the 407 00:15:34,980 --> 00:15:32,949 comet not just be restricted to the 408 00:15:37,259 --> 00:15:34,990 narrow little window so we've developed 409 00:15:39,180 --> 00:15:37,269 a new technique based on technologies 410 00:15:41,970 --> 00:15:39,190 that were developed for the Jame 411 00:15:43,890 --> 00:15:41,980 to Webb Space Telescope and which is a 412 00:15:46,770 --> 00:15:43,900 day for red telescope that we're moving 413 00:15:49,230 --> 00:15:46,780 them into the ultraviolet and there we 414 00:15:51,480 --> 00:15:49,240 have instead of one long narrow window 415 00:15:53,970 --> 00:15:51,490 we have many little tiny baby windows 416 00:15:55,500 --> 00:15:53,980 that we can then sample larger regions 417 00:15:57,690 --> 00:15:55,510 of the sky and gather more information 418 00:16:00,000 --> 00:15:57,700 during the course of the observation 419 00:16:02,460 --> 00:16:00,010 that we take how do you tested this out 420 00:16:04,380 --> 00:16:02,470 on a flight yet yeah we recently got 421 00:16:06,660 --> 00:16:04,390 back from White Sands Missile Range in 422 00:16:09,090 --> 00:16:06,670 New Mexico where we have a successful 423 00:16:10,860 --> 00:16:09,100 flight of micro shutter array the 424 00:16:12,210 --> 00:16:10,870 next-generation micro shutter array it's 425 00:16:14,330 --> 00:16:12,220 a little bit different from what's being 426 00:16:16,890 --> 00:16:14,340 flown on the James Webb Space Telescope 427 00:16:19,140 --> 00:16:16,900 and it's very new and exciting to be 428 00:16:24,810 --> 00:16:19,150 able to do this we looked at a galaxy 429 00:16:27,330 --> 00:16:24,820 called m33 and we looked at the star 430 00:16:29,940 --> 00:16:27,340 clusters in the galaxy and we wanted to 431 00:16:32,990 --> 00:16:29,950 see how the gas that was blown out of 432 00:16:36,210 --> 00:16:33,000 these very hot new star clusters as a 433 00:16:38,970 --> 00:16:36,220 merging from the disk of the galaxy and 434 00:16:41,160 --> 00:16:38,980 and populating the circumvallate medium 435 00:16:42,900 --> 00:16:41,170 surrounding the galaxy often this stuff 436 00:16:45,600 --> 00:16:42,910 will not have enough velocity so that 437 00:16:50,070 --> 00:16:45,610 rains back down on the disk and it forms 438 00:16:51,270 --> 00:16:50,080 clouds of dust and ultimately adds to an 439 00:16:53,820 --> 00:16:51,280 enrichment of 440 00:16:56,550 --> 00:16:53,830 the clouds that then can form other 441 00:16:58,410 --> 00:16:56,560 stars usually lower mass stars and out 442 00:17:00,540 --> 00:16:58,420 of these you get solar systems and 443 00:17:03,480 --> 00:17:00,550 stellar systems that ultimately form 444 00:17:06,030 --> 00:17:03,490 planets out of the dust and so the dust 445 00:17:08,429 --> 00:17:06,040 sort of becomes us Wow 446 00:17:09,960 --> 00:17:08,439 so what was important about the the new 447 00:17:13,290 --> 00:17:09,970 technology were using that allowed you 448 00:17:15,900 --> 00:17:13,300 to see that like what was the key thing 449 00:17:18,630 --> 00:17:15,910 about is that it is not just restricted 450 00:17:21,090 --> 00:17:18,640 to one little narrow window but it's 451 00:17:23,490 --> 00:17:21,100 lots of little tiny windows that we can 452 00:17:26,760 --> 00:17:23,500 then sample larger and larger regions 453 00:17:28,680 --> 00:17:26,770 and increase the region that we see this 454 00:17:30,780 --> 00:17:28,690 is a capability that's been enjoyed from 455 00:17:32,550 --> 00:17:30,790 the ground for a long time but the 456 00:17:34,860 --> 00:17:32,560 technologies that we're now developing 457 00:17:39,060 --> 00:17:34,870 here allow us to then bring this to 458 00:17:41,190 --> 00:17:39,070 space and is the basis of many mission 459 00:17:43,550 --> 00:17:41,200 studies for new ultra Maya 460 00:17:46,200 --> 00:17:43,560 instrumentation that is projected to be 461 00:17:48,060 --> 00:17:46,210 developed in the next twenty eight ten 462 00:17:50,190 --> 00:17:48,070 and twenty year times Wow so it's like 463 00:17:52,760 --> 00:17:50,200 way in the future but the stuff is the 464 00:17:54,260 --> 00:17:52,770 stuff we're doing the new stuff the 465 00:17:56,240 --> 00:17:54,270 big missions we'll just have to touch up 466 00:17:58,310 --> 00:17:56,250 later on Wow 467 00:17:59,630 --> 00:17:58,320 Kathy I understand you've been involved 468 00:18:01,670 --> 00:17:59,640 with some missions that are actually 469 00:18:04,190 --> 00:18:01,680 testing out technology that will help us 470 00:18:06,470 --> 00:18:04,200 get to Mars right that's right you might 471 00:18:08,240 --> 00:18:06,480 have heard of the art of NASA's Artemis 472 00:18:09,770 --> 00:18:08,250 mission where we plan to send spacecraft 473 00:18:12,590 --> 00:18:09,780 and humans to the moon and then 474 00:18:15,290 --> 00:18:12,600 eventually onto Mars well before we send 475 00:18:18,080 --> 00:18:15,300 humans to Mars we're going to get doing 476 00:18:20,390 --> 00:18:18,090 robotic missions that are going to be 477 00:18:22,190 --> 00:18:20,400 collecting scientific data that then 478 00:18:24,860 --> 00:18:22,200 tells us a little bit more about the 479 00:18:28,310 --> 00:18:24,870 planet and what's what's going on there 480 00:18:31,250 --> 00:18:28,320 so as you know landing on Mars is not an 481 00:18:33,470 --> 00:18:31,260 easy thing to do the atmosphere on Mars 482 00:18:36,620 --> 00:18:33,480 is significantly less dense than it is 483 00:18:40,220 --> 00:18:36,630 on earth and so landing a payload the 484 00:18:42,470 --> 00:18:40,230 size of a car or a small SUV coming in 485 00:18:45,110 --> 00:18:42,480 from supersonic velocity is incredibly 486 00:18:47,930 --> 00:18:45,120 difficult to do so we recently worked 487 00:18:50,060 --> 00:18:47,940 with sunny Rockets with NASA's Jet 488 00:18:52,520 --> 00:18:50,070 Propulsion Laboratory on their aspire 489 00:18:53,950 --> 00:18:52,530 program and what they're interested in 490 00:18:55,940 --> 00:18:53,960 doing is studying the fundamental 491 00:18:59,000 --> 00:18:55,950 inflation characteristics of a 492 00:19:00,560 --> 00:18:59,010 supersonic parachute so we flew three 493 00:19:03,830 --> 00:19:00,570 sounding rocket missions over the course 494 00:19:06,350 --> 00:19:03,840 of two years and they were able to use 495 00:19:08,000 --> 00:19:06,360 very high definition video to study this 496 00:19:10,850 --> 00:19:08,010 inflation characteristics of the 497 00:19:12,770 --> 00:19:10,860 supersonic parachute and they're able to 498 00:19:14,810 --> 00:19:12,780 take what they learn from the sani 499 00:19:18,670 --> 00:19:14,820 rocket flights and then design a 500 00:19:20,600 --> 00:19:18,680 parachute for the Mars sample return 501 00:19:23,300 --> 00:19:20,610 system that they're going to be 502 00:19:25,040 --> 00:19:23,310 developing for the Mars 2020 mission Wow 503 00:19:26,630 --> 00:19:25,050 we're getting a bunch of questions on 504 00:19:29,300 --> 00:19:26,640 social media so I'm going to take some 505 00:19:31,700 --> 00:19:29,310 of those now oh now on Facebook wants to 506 00:19:34,940 --> 00:19:31,710 know how fast your sounding rockets go 507 00:19:37,850 --> 00:19:34,950 maybe so the mission we've seen earlier 508 00:19:40,190 --> 00:19:37,860 Doug's Norway mission that rocket got 509 00:19:42,710 --> 00:19:40,200 about two eight thousand miles per hour 510 00:19:44,090 --> 00:19:42,720 so that differs from say with the 511 00:19:45,380 --> 00:19:44,100 International Space Station or the 512 00:19:47,210 --> 00:19:45,390 orbital Rockets 513 00:19:49,700 --> 00:19:47,220 those typically have to go to speeds of 514 00:19:52,010 --> 00:19:49,710 about 17,500 miles per hour to stay in 515 00:19:54,590 --> 00:19:52,020 orbit so we're at least half the speed 516 00:19:56,570 --> 00:19:54,600 of an orbital mission right but that 517 00:19:58,730 --> 00:19:56,580 probably gives you some level of hang 518 00:20:00,350 --> 00:19:58,740 time when you're flying that's right 519 00:20:02,090 --> 00:20:00,360 yeah we want to send all our velocity 520 00:20:03,770 --> 00:20:02,100 straight up as high as we can so we can 521 00:20:04,930 --> 00:20:03,780 get our Rockets as high as they can and 522 00:20:07,840 --> 00:20:04,940 get as much 523 00:20:10,090 --> 00:20:07,850 in the space environment as possible 524 00:20:11,800 --> 00:20:10,100 Marci on Facebook is asking can the 525 00:20:14,400 --> 00:20:11,810 sounding rockets be tracked after the 526 00:20:17,620 --> 00:20:14,410 launch and in the place that they land 527 00:20:21,490 --> 00:20:17,630 sure yeah tell me Rockets are often 528 00:20:22,450 --> 00:20:21,500 track with via radar or GPS and you 529 00:20:23,860 --> 00:20:22,460 mentioned there were some other 530 00:20:27,660 --> 00:20:23,870 techniques that were being developed to 531 00:20:30,520 --> 00:20:27,670 do that as well cool 532 00:20:32,320 --> 00:20:30,530 Steven from Facebook is asking how far 533 00:20:33,970 --> 00:20:32,330 down range is a typical sounding rocket 534 00:20:37,480 --> 00:20:33,980 travel and how are the payloads 535 00:20:40,630 --> 00:20:37,490 recovered so some of our smaller rockets 536 00:20:43,750 --> 00:20:40,640 can go about 16 and 90 miles offshore 537 00:20:46,510 --> 00:20:43,760 and on several of our Wallops missions 538 00:20:48,280 --> 00:20:46,520 will use a recovery boat that will go 539 00:20:50,020 --> 00:20:48,290 out and retrieve the the payload from 540 00:20:51,610 --> 00:20:50,030 the water and bring it back for our 541 00:20:54,220 --> 00:20:51,620 white sands missions it's about sixty 542 00:20:56,410 --> 00:20:54,230 miles that they go and again we use a 543 00:20:58,060 --> 00:20:56,420 helicopter that's a land range so we 544 00:20:59,650 --> 00:20:58,070 take a helicopter out and pick up the 545 00:21:02,290 --> 00:20:59,660 payload and bring it back and can 546 00:21:04,930 --> 00:21:02,300 refurbish Andry fly the payload some of 547 00:21:07,630 --> 00:21:04,940 our biggest rockets that we fly can land 548 00:21:09,580 --> 00:21:07,640 about 400 miles off the coast and those 549 00:21:11,470 --> 00:21:09,590 are a little far for us to send a boat 550 00:21:13,000 --> 00:21:11,480 out to to go retrieve so we let those 551 00:21:16,780 --> 00:21:13,010 fall into the ocean and we don't recover 552 00:21:19,030 --> 00:21:16,790 those nakita on Facebook wants to know 553 00:21:20,110 --> 00:21:19,040 how much does it cost to build this kind 554 00:21:21,880 --> 00:21:20,120 of rocket you mentioned a little bit 555 00:21:23,830 --> 00:21:21,890 about this already Kathy but could you 556 00:21:25,420 --> 00:21:23,840 elaborate okay yeah an average mission 557 00:21:27,250 --> 00:21:25,430 average mission cost is about two 558 00:21:29,350 --> 00:21:27,260 million dollars and that covers all of 559 00:21:31,930 --> 00:21:29,360 the labor the parts to build a rocket 560 00:21:33,490 --> 00:21:31,940 the rocket motors as well as any range 561 00:21:37,270 --> 00:21:33,500 costs associated with where we're 562 00:21:39,580 --> 00:21:37,280 launching from a question that we often 563 00:21:42,730 --> 00:21:39,590 get is how do these Rockets take clear 564 00:21:44,590 --> 00:21:42,740 pictures of faraway galaxies so for one 565 00:21:46,990 --> 00:21:44,600 you might think that they've moving a 566 00:21:48,820 --> 00:21:47,000 lot so how do we get around that and 567 00:21:50,740 --> 00:21:48,830 then as a follow-up wouldn't it be 568 00:21:54,250 --> 00:21:50,750 better and easier to use a satellite for 569 00:21:57,240 --> 00:21:54,260 this well over the years nASA has really 570 00:21:59,580 --> 00:21:57,250 developed a very stable ways of 571 00:22:02,220 --> 00:21:59,590 stabilizing the 572 00:22:04,290 --> 00:22:02,230 payload during flight these involve 573 00:22:07,710 --> 00:22:04,300 using gyroscopes in conjunction with 574 00:22:11,340 --> 00:22:07,720 star trackers and then often will fly 575 00:22:14,700 --> 00:22:11,350 cold gas jets in porous and medium and 576 00:22:17,460 --> 00:22:14,710 fine modes to really stabilize that are 577 00:22:19,710 --> 00:22:17,470 pointing we can achieve stabilities that 578 00:22:22,650 --> 00:22:19,720 are equivalent to the seeing limits of 579 00:22:25,530 --> 00:22:22,660 telescopes on on the ground without 580 00:22:27,660 --> 00:22:25,540 adaptive optics about an arc second or 581 00:22:28,950 --> 00:22:27,670 so glasses you can't get really high 582 00:22:30,360 --> 00:22:28,960 resolution really high resolution 583 00:22:32,970 --> 00:22:30,370 because once you get up there you're 584 00:22:36,150 --> 00:22:32,980 basically stable and as long as you have 585 00:22:38,580 --> 00:22:36,160 a gyroscope to keep locked onto to the 586 00:22:41,490 --> 00:22:38,590 Stars with the star tracker you can get 587 00:22:46,110 --> 00:22:41,500 very high stability and the other 588 00:22:48,840 --> 00:22:46,120 question was how how so wouldn't it be 589 00:22:52,830 --> 00:22:48,850 better to use a satellite yes but now a 590 00:22:54,420 --> 00:22:52,840 satellite can always have more observing 591 00:22:56,490 --> 00:22:54,430 time than we can get within the six 592 00:22:59,850 --> 00:22:56,500 minutes of exo-atmospheric time this 593 00:23:01,950 --> 00:22:59,860 typical of the sounding rocket but what 594 00:23:04,680 --> 00:23:01,960 the sounding rock has really offer is a 595 00:23:06,900 --> 00:23:04,690 way to develop new science using new 596 00:23:10,050 --> 00:23:06,910 technologies and then training a next 597 00:23:12,410 --> 00:23:10,060 generation of scientists based 598 00:23:15,120 --> 00:23:12,420 scientists to to carry those 599 00:23:17,700 --> 00:23:15,130 technologies and science techniques into 600 00:23:20,910 --> 00:23:17,710 new orbital missions so we're really 601 00:23:22,890 --> 00:23:20,920 enabling these big missions that NASA is 602 00:23:26,040 --> 00:23:22,900 planning to do in the 10 and 20 year 603 00:23:27,600 --> 00:23:26,050 time frame the hub of all of this work 604 00:23:29,400 --> 00:23:27,610 on sounding rockets is on the Eastern 605 00:23:32,010 --> 00:23:29,410 Shore of Virginia at the Wallops Flight 606 00:23:34,260 --> 00:23:32,020 Facility Wallops is the nation's premier 607 00:23:35,760 --> 00:23:34,270 facility for suborbital flight here's a 608 00:23:40,560 --> 00:23:35,770 quick video to show you what Wallops is 609 00:23:42,690 --> 00:23:40,570 all about founded in 1945 NASA's Wallops 610 00:23:45,300 --> 00:23:42,700 Flight Facility on the Eastern Shore of 611 00:23:48,120 --> 00:23:45,310 Virginia is America's oldest established 612 00:23:50,490 --> 00:23:48,130 launch range over the years it's become 613 00:23:53,670 --> 00:23:50,500 the agency's premier location for sub 614 00:23:55,860 --> 00:23:53,680 orbital flight Wallops is home to NASA's 615 00:23:57,810 --> 00:23:55,870 sounding rockets program from the 616 00:24:00,030 --> 00:23:57,820 earliest designs through to launch and 617 00:24:03,210 --> 00:24:00,040 recovery it all happens through Wallops 618 00:24:04,740 --> 00:24:03,220 it starts with a researcher who has a 619 00:24:07,149 --> 00:24:04,750 science question 620 00:24:08,889 --> 00:24:07,159 Engineers at Wallops then design a 621 00:24:09,940 --> 00:24:08,899 sounding rocket mission to help answer 622 00:24:13,000 --> 00:24:09,950 that question 623 00:24:15,519 --> 00:24:13,010 they have incredible engineers here who 624 00:24:18,820 --> 00:24:15,529 are solving tough technical problems 625 00:24:21,970 --> 00:24:18,830 they design the trajectory machine all 626 00:24:25,120 --> 00:24:21,980 the parts test the payloads and turn it 627 00:24:27,580 --> 00:24:25,130 all into a flight ready rocket the whole 628 00:24:30,880 --> 00:24:27,590 process takes anywhere from a few months 629 00:24:35,409 --> 00:24:30,890 to about two to three years and it 630 00:24:37,899 --> 00:24:35,419 always ends with a bang wallop supports 631 00:24:40,000 --> 00:24:37,909 about 20 to 25 launches a year from 632 00:24:43,539 --> 00:24:40,010 their home base and at locations around 633 00:24:45,879 --> 00:24:43,549 the world wherever they are the team is 634 00:24:48,340 --> 00:24:45,889 there to prepare the rocket coordinate 635 00:24:53,620 --> 00:24:48,350 launches and receive the data for the 636 00:24:54,940 --> 00:24:53,630 mission another unique aspect of the 637 00:24:56,950 --> 00:24:54,950 sounding rockets program is the 638 00:24:58,779 --> 00:24:56,960 involvement of students it's really one 639 00:25:00,639 --> 00:24:58,789 place where students can get hands-on 640 00:25:03,129 --> 00:25:00,649 experience working on a space science 641 00:25:05,230 --> 00:25:03,139 mission even as a university professor 642 00:25:07,060 --> 00:25:05,240 you're around and working with students 643 00:25:09,070 --> 00:25:07,070 a lot and I understand sometimes they're 644 00:25:10,419 --> 00:25:09,080 directly involved in your missions tell 645 00:25:13,600 --> 00:25:10,429 us more about that the students are 646 00:25:17,919 --> 00:25:13,610 essential to our program over the past 647 00:25:20,200 --> 00:25:17,929 60 years we've had undergraduates and 648 00:25:23,529 --> 00:25:20,210 graduate students there have been over 649 00:25:26,470 --> 00:25:23,539 40 PhDs granted within our sounding 650 00:25:28,570 --> 00:25:26,480 rocket program students are involved at 651 00:25:31,060 --> 00:25:28,580 every aspect of the mission development 652 00:25:35,799 --> 00:25:31,070 from the definition of the science 653 00:25:38,230 --> 00:25:35,809 concept to the the flow down of science 654 00:25:41,100 --> 00:25:38,240 requirements into technical requirements 655 00:25:43,990 --> 00:25:41,110 for the mission and then the actual 656 00:25:46,539 --> 00:25:44,000 design and fabrication and procurement 657 00:25:48,310 --> 00:25:46,549 of all the instruments we're going to be 658 00:25:53,169 --> 00:25:48,320 building typically if there involves 659 00:25:56,919 --> 00:25:53,179 telescopes and optical systems vacuum 660 00:25:59,080 --> 00:25:56,929 systems and then we go ahead and involve 661 00:26:01,690 --> 00:25:59,090 them then with the actual planning of 662 00:26:04,120 --> 00:26:01,700 the flights the integration and testing 663 00:26:07,600 --> 00:26:04,130 the calibration of the instruments and 664 00:26:10,659 --> 00:26:07,610 then we over the field so go to the 665 00:26:12,460 --> 00:26:10,669 field - for the astronomy program - 666 00:26:14,860 --> 00:26:12,470 White Sands Missile Range White Sands 667 00:26:16,659 --> 00:26:14,870 Missile Range offers unique capability 668 00:26:17,280 --> 00:26:16,669 in that we can recover the payloads 669 00:26:19,530 --> 00:26:17,290 without 670 00:26:23,280 --> 00:26:19,540 which problem and they also have a 671 00:26:25,800 --> 00:26:23,290 system where we can actually fly the 672 00:26:29,610 --> 00:26:25,810 telescope during flight so the students 673 00:26:32,190 --> 00:26:29,620 will be piloting the telescope over the 674 00:26:35,040 --> 00:26:32,200 first six six minutes of extra time in 675 00:26:36,780 --> 00:26:35,050 the spirit time that we have available 676 00:26:40,590 --> 00:26:36,790 to us so when you when you say fly you 677 00:26:42,960 --> 00:26:40,600 mean like aim it or yeah they'll be with 678 00:26:45,600 --> 00:26:42,970 our precise pointing capability will 679 00:26:47,730 --> 00:26:45,610 have a downlink image of the stellar 680 00:26:51,630 --> 00:26:47,740 field that we're looking at and the 681 00:26:54,300 --> 00:26:51,640 student can then use a joystick to point 682 00:26:55,530 --> 00:26:54,310 the rocket to the actual target that 683 00:26:57,480 --> 00:26:55,540 we're interested in Wow 684 00:26:59,940 --> 00:26:57,490 and then once their pressure a lot of 685 00:27:02,840 --> 00:26:59,950 pressure of course once the flight is 686 00:27:06,030 --> 00:27:02,850 all over and it's over much too quickly 687 00:27:07,890 --> 00:27:06,040 the next morning we we come on back out 688 00:27:09,690 --> 00:27:07,900 and the student goes out on the 689 00:27:12,630 --> 00:27:09,700 helicopter to pick it up and bring it 690 00:27:14,370 --> 00:27:12,640 back and then we refurb it and go to see 691 00:27:17,400 --> 00:27:14,380 Kathy and say hey we'd like another 692 00:27:19,680 --> 00:27:17,410 flight all right Wow so Kathy you you've 693 00:27:21,480 --> 00:27:19,690 been involved with a program that 694 00:27:23,520 --> 00:27:21,490 Wallops where lots of students are 695 00:27:25,080 --> 00:27:23,530 coming through and they're building and 696 00:27:26,580 --> 00:27:25,090 even launching their own rockets right 697 00:27:28,410 --> 00:27:26,590 they're from Wallops tell us more about 698 00:27:30,210 --> 00:27:28,420 what that is yeah Wallops we have 699 00:27:31,800 --> 00:27:30,220 programs for students from the 700 00:27:35,220 --> 00:27:31,810 undergraduate level all the way through 701 00:27:37,530 --> 00:27:35,230 grad school in fact over 400 PhDs have 702 00:27:39,360 --> 00:27:37,540 been awarded over assigning rocket 703 00:27:42,240 --> 00:27:39,370 research that was done on board one of 704 00:27:44,250 --> 00:27:42,250 our one of our missions it Wallops every 705 00:27:47,010 --> 00:27:44,260 year we do two student sounding rocket 706 00:27:48,990 --> 00:27:47,020 missions we partner with the Colorado 707 00:27:52,500 --> 00:27:49,000 Space Grant consortium and they're rock 708 00:27:54,120 --> 00:27:52,510 on program and every year they bring a 709 00:27:56,580 --> 00:27:54,130 group of students to Wallops Flight 710 00:27:58,740 --> 00:27:56,590 Facility for a week and they build these 711 00:28:00,390 --> 00:27:58,750 small payloads that measure the flight 712 00:28:02,520 --> 00:28:00,400 environment of the sounding rocket and 713 00:28:05,070 --> 00:28:02,530 at the end of the week the last day that 714 00:28:07,140 --> 00:28:05,080 they're here we launch and we recover 715 00:28:08,490 --> 00:28:07,150 the Rockets so in a week's time frame 716 00:28:10,500 --> 00:28:08,500 these students get to see an entire 717 00:28:11,370 --> 00:28:10,510 sounding rocket mission from all the way 718 00:28:12,990 --> 00:28:11,380 from the start 719 00:28:15,570 --> 00:28:13,000 through launch and recovery so it's a 720 00:28:17,490 --> 00:28:15,580 really great experience for them as they 721 00:28:20,580 --> 00:28:17,500 graduate through the program they can 722 00:28:23,310 --> 00:28:20,590 then design build and then we will fly 723 00:28:25,320 --> 00:28:23,320 their own their own experiments that 724 00:28:28,770 --> 00:28:25,330 they come up with and we fly them on the 725 00:28:30,419 --> 00:28:28,780 same missions so it's a great way to 726 00:28:32,039 --> 00:28:30,429 train the next gen 727 00:28:34,529 --> 00:28:32,049 raishin of space scientists and 728 00:28:37,259 --> 00:28:34,539 engineers and we've had over 700 729 00:28:39,210 --> 00:28:37,269 students from 43 states participate over 730 00:28:42,389 --> 00:28:39,220 the 13-year life of the rock on program 731 00:28:45,480 --> 00:28:42,399 which is really wonderful it Wallops we 732 00:28:47,519 --> 00:28:45,490 also have our own internal internship 733 00:28:49,350 --> 00:28:47,529 and co-op program for the sounding 734 00:28:51,419 --> 00:28:49,360 rocket program over its 20-year 735 00:28:53,430 --> 00:28:51,429 lifecycle we've had over 200 students 736 00:28:55,590 --> 00:28:53,440 and typically their engineering students 737 00:28:57,419 --> 00:28:55,600 come and they get to work side by side 738 00:29:00,060 --> 00:28:57,429 with our sounding rocket engineers so 739 00:29:01,980 --> 00:29:00,070 they get to design build test and even 740 00:29:04,889 --> 00:29:01,990 sometimes launch and see the recovery 741 00:29:06,840 --> 00:29:04,899 operations of our missions again another 742 00:29:09,060 --> 00:29:06,850 great opportunity for students 743 00:29:11,580 --> 00:29:09,070 engineering students to get involved and 744 00:29:13,730 --> 00:29:11,590 actually that's how I got my start in 745 00:29:16,109 --> 00:29:13,740 sounding rockets so I was a 746 00:29:18,960 --> 00:29:16,119 undergraduate student at Virginia Tech 747 00:29:20,879 --> 00:29:18,970 and they were working on a rocket 748 00:29:23,519 --> 00:29:20,889 program with Wallops at Wallops was 749 00:29:25,830 --> 00:29:23,529 sponsoring and I got involved in the 750 00:29:27,570 --> 00:29:25,840 program and it eventually led to an 751 00:29:29,909 --> 00:29:27,580 internship at Wallops and then that 752 00:29:31,739 --> 00:29:29,919 eventually led to a full time career 753 00:29:33,779 --> 00:29:31,749 after graduation and I've been with a 754 00:29:35,430 --> 00:29:33,789 program ever since Wow how did you get 755 00:29:37,109 --> 00:29:35,440 started as what drew you to it in the 756 00:29:38,580 --> 00:29:37,119 first place well as an engineering 757 00:29:40,739 --> 00:29:38,590 student there is absolutely nothing 758 00:29:42,840 --> 00:29:40,749 better than a rocket they go the fastest 759 00:29:45,600 --> 00:29:42,850 they go the highest the loads that they 760 00:29:47,279 --> 00:29:45,610 go under the thermal loads the Rockets 761 00:29:50,970 --> 00:29:47,289 are bending it's an engineer's dream 762 00:29:53,009 --> 00:29:50,980 right not a bad gig no some of these 763 00:29:55,019 --> 00:29:53,019 launches do happen from Wallops but 764 00:29:57,239 --> 00:29:55,029 Wallops also supports flights all over 765 00:29:59,310 --> 00:29:57,249 the globe in fact right now we have NASA 766 00:30:01,169 --> 00:29:59,320 teams based in Svalbard an island in the 767 00:30:02,940 --> 00:30:01,179 middle of the Arctic Ocean preparing for 768 00:30:05,580 --> 00:30:02,950 the next launches in the Grand Challenge 769 00:30:07,230 --> 00:30:05,590 initiative cusp but the first rockets to 770 00:30:09,060 --> 00:30:07,240 launch as part of that series launched 771 00:30:12,670 --> 00:30:09,070 last year let's see a little bit more 772 00:30:14,800 --> 00:30:12,680 from behind the scenes of that mission 773 00:30:18,280 --> 00:30:14,810 we're in the northernmost place in the 774 00:30:21,160 --> 00:30:18,290 world in the Alison small work Norway we 775 00:30:23,560 --> 00:30:21,170 have 35 residents and 60 of our team 776 00:30:25,060 --> 00:30:23,570 together and a town that is completely 777 00:30:27,250 --> 00:30:25,070 isolated there's a plane twice a week 778 00:30:29,890 --> 00:30:27,260 and there's a thousand polar bears 779 00:30:32,740 --> 00:30:29,900 nearby we're here because it's dark all 780 00:30:34,150 --> 00:30:32,750 the 24 hours a day in the winter so we 781 00:30:36,070 --> 00:30:34,160 can have the beautiful aurora overhead 782 00:30:38,670 --> 00:30:36,080 these are cameras to study it and then 783 00:30:40,750 --> 00:30:38,680 it has the magnetic cusp which is a weak 784 00:30:43,440 --> 00:30:40,760 it's only two points on right that on 785 00:30:48,930 --> 00:30:43,450 the earth and every day than the Alison 786 00:30:54,220 --> 00:30:52,060 so that mission was called visions - and 787 00:30:56,860 --> 00:30:54,230 Doug Rowland who's joining us now was 788 00:30:59,740 --> 00:30:56,870 lead scientist Doug tell us more about 789 00:31:01,450 --> 00:30:59,750 what vision 2 is about and also why you 790 00:31:02,890 --> 00:31:01,460 had to go all the way to small barn to 791 00:31:05,560 --> 00:31:02,900 launch rockets thanks miles 792 00:31:07,840 --> 00:31:05,570 so visions 2 was a study of the aurora 793 00:31:10,000 --> 00:31:07,850 and how the aurora heats our atmosphere 794 00:31:11,680 --> 00:31:10,010 and causes to escape into space don't 795 00:31:13,030 --> 00:31:11,690 worry we've got five billion years or 796 00:31:15,190 --> 00:31:13,040 more of atmosphere left you're not gonna 797 00:31:16,840 --> 00:31:15,200 lose it any time soon but we want to 798 00:31:18,730 --> 00:31:16,850 understand how atmospheric escape works 799 00:31:20,380 --> 00:31:18,740 in the earth because other planets like 800 00:31:21,760 --> 00:31:20,390 Mars or exoplanets 801 00:31:23,770 --> 00:31:21,770 they have different histories and 802 00:31:25,420 --> 00:31:23,780 different life experiences and so Mars 803 00:31:27,490 --> 00:31:25,430 for example lost a lot of us atmosphere 804 00:31:28,720 --> 00:31:27,500 very early on Mars has lots smaller than 805 00:31:30,370 --> 00:31:28,730 Earth it doesn't have a magnetic field 806 00:31:31,510 --> 00:31:30,380 like the earth does so there's very 807 00:31:33,580 --> 00:31:31,520 differences but we want to try to 808 00:31:34,900 --> 00:31:33,590 understand at our local laboratory where 809 00:31:37,060 --> 00:31:34,910 it costs just a few million dollars to 810 00:31:38,980 --> 00:31:37,070 study and then try to strap like that to 811 00:31:41,200 --> 00:31:38,990 elsewhere as opposed to sending many 812 00:31:43,000 --> 00:31:41,210 probes to these other places got it 813 00:31:44,860 --> 00:31:43,010 we've got a graphic here showing Earth 814 00:31:46,060 --> 00:31:44,870 tell us what we're seeing here Doug okay 815 00:31:48,340 --> 00:31:46,070 well this is a picture of the Earth's 816 00:31:50,860 --> 00:31:48,350 magnetic field embedded in the solar 817 00:31:52,180 --> 00:31:50,870 wind so space is not empty you have the 818 00:31:54,340 --> 00:31:52,190 solar wind which is basically the hot 819 00:31:56,290 --> 00:31:54,350 gas flowing out from the Sun it streams 820 00:31:58,090 --> 00:31:56,300 past the earth and the magnetic field 821 00:32:00,190 --> 00:31:58,100 for the most part deflects that solar 822 00:32:02,230 --> 00:32:00,200 wind around the earth but there are two 823 00:32:04,180 --> 00:32:02,240 regions the cusps where there's sort of 824 00:32:05,710 --> 00:32:04,190 a funnel where the magnetic field has a 825 00:32:07,870 --> 00:32:05,720 weak point this whole region stream 826 00:32:09,820 --> 00:32:07,880 right into our atmosphere here and here 827 00:32:11,530 --> 00:32:09,830 the--and those two points are fixed 828 00:32:13,450 --> 00:32:11,540 they're always on the side of the earth 829 00:32:15,760 --> 00:32:13,460 at its base in the Sun but the earth 830 00:32:18,280 --> 00:32:15,770 rotates underneath them and so if you're 831 00:32:20,650 --> 00:32:18,290 at these very high latitudes 79 degrees 832 00:32:21,160 --> 00:32:20,660 or so about 700 miles from the North 833 00:32:23,140 --> 00:32:21,170 Pole 834 00:32:24,340 --> 00:32:23,150 the cost every day will rotate right 835 00:32:25,780 --> 00:32:24,350 over your head and you can 836 00:32:28,270 --> 00:32:25,790 you're rocking too if you want to study 837 00:32:31,330 --> 00:32:28,280 how that solar wind affects the 838 00:32:33,190 --> 00:32:31,340 atmosphere so you mentioned you are 839 00:32:36,310 --> 00:32:33,200 studying oxygen escaping and we're 840 00:32:37,900 --> 00:32:36,320 seeing in part of this graphic we're 841 00:32:39,280 --> 00:32:37,910 seeing the solar wind coming in here but 842 00:32:41,770 --> 00:32:39,290 then we're also seeing a little bit of 843 00:32:43,390 --> 00:32:41,780 particles coming out is that that's the 844 00:32:45,580 --> 00:32:43,400 oxygen mile so yeah so this is the solar 845 00:32:47,650 --> 00:32:45,590 wind kind of coming in this cusp funnel 846 00:32:49,240 --> 00:32:47,660 and as it streams right down in is 847 00:32:50,890 --> 00:32:49,250 hitting the atmosphere directly doesn't 848 00:32:52,780 --> 00:32:50,900 have to go through any other process and 849 00:32:54,820 --> 00:32:52,790 when it does heats that atmosphere gives 850 00:32:56,680 --> 00:32:54,830 off that a rural life and cause that 851 00:32:58,540 --> 00:32:56,690 oxygen to stream out and that's another 852 00:33:00,730 --> 00:32:58,550 beautiful thing what they cost we go 853 00:33:02,140 --> 00:33:00,740 there because in the winter it's dark 854 00:33:03,370 --> 00:33:02,150 all the time this is the only place on 855 00:33:05,620 --> 00:33:03,380 earth where you can see Aurora during 856 00:33:07,600 --> 00:33:05,630 the day and that makes it really cool we 857 00:33:09,400 --> 00:33:07,610 have these cameras on the ground let's 858 00:33:11,320 --> 00:33:09,410 say okay this Aurora is telling us where 859 00:33:13,780 --> 00:33:11,330 the energy is coming in and energizing 860 00:33:15,190 --> 00:33:13,790 that that escaping atmosphere so to see 861 00:33:16,570 --> 00:33:15,200 if it's time to launch or not we don't 862 00:33:17,590 --> 00:33:16,580 want to waste our rocket we want to 863 00:33:19,030 --> 00:33:17,600 launch when there's a brighter were 864 00:33:20,920 --> 00:33:19,040 there we think there's lots of this 865 00:33:22,660 --> 00:33:20,930 happening so we have a sensitive camera 866 00:33:25,330 --> 00:33:22,670 down here if it was daytime would be 867 00:33:28,150 --> 00:33:25,340 washed out but because it's day but dark 868 00:33:29,650 --> 00:33:28,160 there in the winter 24 hours a day we 869 00:33:32,170 --> 00:33:29,660 can have our camera there and no one to 870 00:33:34,000 --> 00:33:32,180 launch and then go wow so yours was just 871 00:33:35,650 --> 00:33:34,010 the first mission though out of a whole 872 00:33:37,690 --> 00:33:35,660 series called the Grand Challenge 873 00:33:39,580 --> 00:33:37,700 initiative cusp can you tell us more 874 00:33:41,260 --> 00:33:39,590 about what that is and also we mentioned 875 00:33:42,970 --> 00:33:41,270 at the top of the show that we have the 876 00:33:44,320 --> 00:33:42,980 next three launches coming up next week 877 00:33:46,030 --> 00:33:44,330 so tell us a little bit more about this 878 00:33:49,180 --> 00:33:46,040 you're the Grand Challenge initiative 879 00:33:50,950 --> 00:33:49,190 cusp is a multinational collaboration we 880 00:33:52,480 --> 00:33:50,960 was developed by the University of Oslo 881 00:33:55,570 --> 00:33:52,490 in Norway and it's a multinational 882 00:33:57,280 --> 00:33:55,580 between Norway the US Japan and we have 883 00:33:59,260 --> 00:33:57,290 contributions from the UK and Canada as 884 00:34:00,070 --> 00:33:59,270 well and the whole idea is you know you 885 00:34:02,290 --> 00:34:00,080 can do a lot 886 00:34:04,540 --> 00:34:02,300 one rocket at a time but you can get 887 00:34:06,610 --> 00:34:04,550 extra bonus out of kind of combining 888 00:34:08,470 --> 00:34:06,620 those rocket missions get you save money 889 00:34:09,820 --> 00:34:08,480 you save time and you can really 890 00:34:12,610 --> 00:34:09,830 leverage the science from each mission 891 00:34:13,990 --> 00:34:12,620 to try to to try to learn more for 892 00:34:15,400 --> 00:34:14,000 example the Grand Challenge it happened 893 00:34:17,169 --> 00:34:15,410 over about two years it started last 894 00:34:19,450 --> 00:34:17,179 November it's continuing through this 895 00:34:21,610 --> 00:34:19,460 winter we have next week three rocket 896 00:34:23,440 --> 00:34:21,620 missions launching potentially as part 897 00:34:26,050 --> 00:34:23,450 of this Grand Challenge and it continues 898 00:34:28,210 --> 00:34:26,060 through to them to 2020 a little bit the 899 00:34:29,950 --> 00:34:28,220 ideas we have two launch sites here 900 00:34:31,570 --> 00:34:29,960 normally we launch our rural rockets 901 00:34:33,280 --> 00:34:31,580 from Alaska Poker flat research range 902 00:34:35,050 --> 00:34:33,290 but here because want to study the cost 903 00:34:36,740 --> 00:34:35,060 we go to northern Norway this is the 904 00:34:38,750 --> 00:34:36,750 north coast of Norway continental 905 00:34:40,669 --> 00:34:38,760 this is Andrea rocket range which is 906 00:34:43,280 --> 00:34:40,679 right on the northern coast there this 907 00:34:45,139 --> 00:34:43,290 is the archipelago small Bart the island 908 00:34:47,950 --> 00:34:45,149 of Spitsbergen is here and the ålesund 909 00:34:49,849 --> 00:34:47,960 at 79 degrees north is the northernmost 910 00:34:52,129 --> 00:34:49,859 permanently inhabited civilian 911 00:34:54,050 --> 00:34:52,139 settlement in the world so it's got an 912 00:34:56,419 --> 00:34:54,060 ice-free Harbor it's got an airport it's 913 00:34:58,370 --> 00:34:56,429 got polar night 24 hours a day it's got 914 00:35:00,589 --> 00:34:58,380 a rocket range the first NASA rockets 915 00:35:02,660 --> 00:35:00,599 were launched in 1997 Rob Taft who you 916 00:35:04,430 --> 00:35:02,670 saw earlier was instrumental in getting 917 00:35:06,140 --> 00:35:04,440 that developed and then we have the 918 00:35:07,700 --> 00:35:06,150 Norwegian scientists who really 919 00:35:09,230 --> 00:35:07,710 developed that and got that going so we 920 00:35:11,720 --> 00:35:09,240 could work together as an international 921 00:35:13,099 --> 00:35:11,730 team and so you can see here these are 922 00:35:14,330 --> 00:35:13,109 just graphical projections of the 923 00:35:16,160 --> 00:35:14,340 trajectories of the rocket there are 924 00:35:18,200 --> 00:35:16,170 these suborbital parabolic trajectories 925 00:35:19,640 --> 00:35:18,210 we go up and we come back down and 926 00:35:21,349 --> 00:35:19,650 there's a launch site here in the 927 00:35:22,609 --> 00:35:21,359 Allison at launch life here in Oya 928 00:35:23,930 --> 00:35:22,619 and we just show the different 929 00:35:25,520 --> 00:35:23,940 trajectories some are going to low 930 00:35:26,960 --> 00:35:25,530 altitudes to measure certain things this 931 00:35:28,730 --> 00:35:26,970 is a student rocket where students 932 00:35:30,170 --> 00:35:28,740 develop this these are other kinds of 933 00:35:32,450 --> 00:35:30,180 rockets of many different altitudes and 934 00:35:33,620 --> 00:35:32,460 then the Trice to rocket led by craig 935 00:35:36,349 --> 00:35:33,630 kletzing at the University of Iowa was 936 00:35:37,550 --> 00:35:36,359 the highest one of the ones we went on 937 00:35:39,410 --> 00:35:37,560 what you want to study you have you can 938 00:35:41,060 --> 00:35:39,420 see how you can tailor this to really 939 00:35:43,220 --> 00:35:41,070 adjust any part of this vertical range 940 00:35:44,900 --> 00:35:43,230 you want to study Wow tell me more about 941 00:35:47,089 --> 00:35:44,910 what it was like to go here I mean this 942 00:35:49,010 --> 00:35:47,099 is not you know New York this is not 943 00:35:50,960 --> 00:35:49,020 Washington where we are now what is it 944 00:35:52,520 --> 00:35:50,970 like to be and launch from a place - 945 00:35:54,440 --> 00:35:52,530 well Nelson's kind of a magical place 946 00:35:56,359 --> 00:35:54,450 it's this one place on earth that's 947 00:35:58,579 --> 00:35:56,369 given 700 miles from the North Pole 948 00:36:01,339 --> 00:35:58,589 there's more polar bears than people and 949 00:36:03,710 --> 00:36:01,349 there's a wonderful town there called me 950 00:36:06,440 --> 00:36:03,720 Allison which is sort of a strange town 951 00:36:07,880 --> 00:36:06,450 it's a private public partnership with 952 00:36:09,650 --> 00:36:07,890 with the Kings Bay Company in the 953 00:36:10,849 --> 00:36:09,660 government of Norway in its research 954 00:36:12,859 --> 00:36:10,859 town you know it used to be a coal 955 00:36:14,060 --> 00:36:12,869 mining town back in the day and now 956 00:36:15,980 --> 00:36:14,070 they've got research when there's all 957 00:36:18,310 --> 00:36:15,990 kinds of research they study Glaciology 958 00:36:22,099 --> 00:36:18,320 marine biology atmospheric pollution 959 00:36:24,260 --> 00:36:22,109 tectonic motion and the aurora and so 960 00:36:25,670 --> 00:36:24,270 they have various international groups 961 00:36:26,900 --> 00:36:25,680 come in and set up and leased space from 962 00:36:28,700 --> 00:36:26,910 the Kings Bay Company they set up their 963 00:36:30,740 --> 00:36:28,710 research sites and they built a rocket 964 00:36:32,329 --> 00:36:30,750 range here and so the beauty of that is 965 00:36:35,570 --> 00:36:32,339 they're so used to having such an 966 00:36:37,400 --> 00:36:35,580 international culture there that it's 967 00:36:38,839 --> 00:36:37,410 very open it's very welcoming you know 968 00:36:40,280 --> 00:36:38,849 it's dark all the time but the people 969 00:36:41,710 --> 00:36:40,290 there kind of brighten it for you you 970 00:36:43,970 --> 00:36:41,720 know it's very nice you have these 971 00:36:44,930 --> 00:36:43,980 communal cafeteria mess hall and 972 00:36:46,400 --> 00:36:44,940 everything where you can kind of eat 973 00:36:47,420 --> 00:36:46,410 together just they welcome you into this 974 00:36:50,089 --> 00:36:47,430 community we're there for five weeks 975 00:36:50,510 --> 00:36:50,099 some of our team was there for many many 976 00:36:51,860 --> 00:36:50,520 months 977 00:36:53,750 --> 00:36:51,870 because they had to set up the launcher 978 00:36:54,860 --> 00:36:53,760 they to bring in the telemetry there's a 979 00:36:56,960 --> 00:36:54,870 lot of the Wallops guys they go over 980 00:36:57,920 --> 00:36:56,970 there for months at a time our science 981 00:37:00,020 --> 00:36:57,930 team was there for about five weeks 982 00:37:01,460 --> 00:37:00,030 setting up and you really become part of 983 00:37:04,280 --> 00:37:01,470 that town and you're really part of that 984 00:37:06,320 --> 00:37:04,290 culture and just a beautiful area Wow we 985 00:37:08,240 --> 00:37:06,330 were gonna have everyone back on now 986 00:37:12,830 --> 00:37:08,250 we'll take some questions from social 987 00:37:14,840 --> 00:37:12,840 media so Zander from periscope is asking 988 00:37:16,460 --> 00:37:14,850 how long does it take from Mission 989 00:37:19,400 --> 00:37:16,470 concept to launch that's probably a 990 00:37:21,380 --> 00:37:19,410 Cathy question about two years for a new 991 00:37:23,300 --> 00:37:21,390 payload but if we have one that's 992 00:37:25,010 --> 00:37:23,310 already flown and we can just refurbish 993 00:37:27,080 --> 00:37:25,020 and fly it again we can do it in a short 994 00:37:30,350 --> 00:37:27,090 is about six months to twelve months on 995 00:37:32,300 --> 00:37:30,360 average Ellie on Twitter is asking how 996 00:37:38,150 --> 00:37:32,310 difficult is it to build and launch a 997 00:37:40,520 --> 00:37:38,160 sounding rocket we we do most of it 998 00:37:42,560 --> 00:37:40,530 in-house at our facility at Wallops we 999 00:37:44,330 --> 00:37:42,570 do all the design and manufacturing for 1000 00:37:45,560 --> 00:37:44,340 most of the pieces in-house and then the 1001 00:37:47,180 --> 00:37:45,570 rocket motors of course are either 1002 00:37:51,530 --> 00:37:47,190 military surplus store we buy them from 1003 00:37:53,480 --> 00:37:51,540 a commercial vendor so not hard I think 1004 00:37:56,210 --> 00:37:53,490 so thanks six months it's only rocket 1005 00:37:59,480 --> 00:37:56,220 science Yeah right exactly no it's it's 1006 00:38:00,920 --> 00:37:59,490 certainly a fun and challenging 1007 00:38:03,740 --> 00:38:00,930 environment it's a build a sounding 1008 00:38:05,630 --> 00:38:03,750 rocket so sure one on Facebook wants to 1009 00:38:07,940 --> 00:38:05,640 know can you watch a sounding rocket 1010 00:38:10,460 --> 00:38:07,950 launch and where do I find out how and 1011 00:38:12,170 --> 00:38:10,470 win where can I do that maybe okay 1012 00:38:14,810 --> 00:38:12,180 well first of all of the NASA sounding 1013 00:38:17,330 --> 00:38:14,820 rockets are announced if we encourage 1014 00:38:19,520 --> 00:38:17,340 everyone to watch them you have to have 1015 00:38:20,930 --> 00:38:19,530 a certain amount of patience though 1016 00:38:22,340 --> 00:38:20,940 because we're not but a lot of the 1017 00:38:23,420 --> 00:38:22,350 science missions you're not sure when 1018 00:38:25,160 --> 00:38:23,430 you're gonna launch you're gonna launch 1019 00:38:26,900 --> 00:38:25,170 when the conditions are just right we 1020 00:38:28,670 --> 00:38:26,910 usually have a two-week window and then 1021 00:38:31,820 --> 00:38:28,680 within every day within that window you 1022 00:38:33,530 --> 00:38:31,830 might have a four or five hour again a 1023 00:38:35,630 --> 00:38:33,540 window which is your window of 1024 00:38:37,820 --> 00:38:35,640 opportunity to launch it when and again 1025 00:38:39,650 --> 00:38:37,830 for the the science conditions to be 1026 00:38:41,270 --> 00:38:39,660 just right I should point out though 1027 00:38:42,680 --> 00:38:41,280 that if you're on the East Coast you can 1028 00:38:44,570 --> 00:38:42,690 welcome to come to Wallops Flight 1029 00:38:46,430 --> 00:38:44,580 Facility to watch launches there if 1030 00:38:48,680 --> 00:38:46,440 you're on the west and up north you can 1031 00:38:51,500 --> 00:38:48,690 go to Alaska to watch launches into the 1032 00:38:54,910 --> 00:38:51,510 aurora from poker flat research range or 1033 00:38:57,200 --> 00:38:54,920 white sands we also have I do all the 1034 00:38:59,630 --> 00:38:57,210 majority of the launches are live 1035 00:39:01,400 --> 00:38:59,640 streamed yeah so you can actually you 1036 00:39:03,340 --> 00:39:01,410 know you can see them on nasa.gov slash 1037 00:39:05,110 --> 00:39:03,350 Wallops so 1038 00:39:07,090 --> 00:39:05,120 we really encourage the public to get 1039 00:39:09,790 --> 00:39:07,100 involved got it 1040 00:39:12,400 --> 00:39:09,800 Christine on Facebook is asking how is 1041 00:39:14,470 --> 00:39:12,410 data retrieval accomplished so for 1042 00:39:15,730 --> 00:39:14,480 example is it collected during flight or 1043 00:39:18,700 --> 00:39:15,740 you have to wait to the rocket falls 1044 00:39:21,580 --> 00:39:18,710 back down maybe just even you ya know we 1045 00:39:26,380 --> 00:39:21,590 have real-time telemetry from the rocket 1046 00:39:30,760 --> 00:39:26,390 it happens onboard it's turned in all 1047 00:39:33,970 --> 00:39:30,770 your housekeeping analog channels and 1048 00:39:35,710 --> 00:39:33,980 all your digital primary science data is 1049 00:39:37,900 --> 00:39:35,720 turned into ones and zeros and put me 1050 00:39:41,410 --> 00:39:37,910 doing great big matrix and this matrix 1051 00:39:43,810 --> 00:39:41,420 is then sent down on the ground via s 1052 00:39:46,090 --> 00:39:43,820 band radio waves and translated by a 1053 00:39:49,720 --> 00:39:46,100 ground station and we have real-time 1054 00:39:51,790 --> 00:39:49,730 contact and sometimes they go ahead and 1055 00:39:54,040 --> 00:39:51,800 record if they have very high data rates 1056 00:39:56,170 --> 00:39:54,050 onboard but for the most part you have 1057 00:39:58,210 --> 00:39:56,180 real-time contract and and you know 1058 00:40:00,370 --> 00:39:58,220 almost instantaneously what has happened 1059 00:40:02,050 --> 00:40:00,380 and that's what telemetry is right it's 1060 00:40:06,130 --> 00:40:02,060 the sending of the informations right 1061 00:40:07,510 --> 00:40:06,140 that's quick school one of our Facebook 1062 00:40:08,860 --> 00:40:07,520 followers is asking in your opinion 1063 00:40:10,660 --> 00:40:08,870 what's the most important thing we've 1064 00:40:11,740 --> 00:40:10,670 learned from the sounding rocket program 1065 00:40:14,050 --> 00:40:11,750 and what is the most interesting 1066 00:40:20,350 --> 00:40:14,060 question you still hope to answer this 1067 00:40:21,790 --> 00:40:20,360 one is a free-for-all can i we've had so 1068 00:40:23,560 --> 00:40:21,800 many discoveries from the rocket 1069 00:40:25,510 --> 00:40:23,570 programming I always think back to the 1070 00:40:28,180 --> 00:40:25,520 Aurora how it was sounding rockets that 1071 00:40:30,490 --> 00:40:28,190 determinar discovered that it was beams 1072 00:40:32,170 --> 00:40:30,500 of energetic electrons coming down the 1073 00:40:34,180 --> 00:40:32,180 magnetic field lines interacting with 1074 00:40:36,460 --> 00:40:34,190 the atmosphere to actually caused the 1075 00:40:38,410 --> 00:40:36,470 Evora but it didn't stop there I mean we 1076 00:40:40,120 --> 00:40:38,420 also did so much more and are doing so 1077 00:40:42,430 --> 00:40:40,130 much more research with the Aurora as 1078 00:40:44,110 --> 00:40:42,440 far as electric fields and waves 1079 00:40:45,700 --> 00:40:44,120 associated with the Aurora how these 1080 00:40:47,620 --> 00:40:45,710 were affect the chemistry of the 1081 00:40:49,780 --> 00:40:47,630 apparatus for the heating the iron 1082 00:40:51,340 --> 00:40:49,790 outflow the Doug was talking about so as 1083 00:40:54,300 --> 00:40:51,350 a whole new field we keep getting more 1084 00:40:57,220 --> 00:40:54,310 we keep being led on to do more 1085 00:40:59,020 --> 00:40:57,230 follow-on missions to go after the 1086 00:41:00,970 --> 00:40:59,030 important processes that we're 1087 00:41:03,070 --> 00:41:00,980 discovering we've also looked at 1088 00:41:04,900 --> 00:41:03,080 noctilucent clouds and the aerosols that 1089 00:41:06,700 --> 00:41:04,910 have i sublimation to create those 1090 00:41:09,340 --> 00:41:06,710 clouds those were discovered on sounding 1091 00:41:11,410 --> 00:41:09,350 rockets lightning studies we've launched 1092 00:41:13,330 --> 00:41:11,420 over thunderstorms and we've discovered 1093 00:41:15,730 --> 00:41:13,340 know that when there's a lightning burst 1094 00:41:16,480 --> 00:41:15,740 a very large electric field associate 1095 00:41:18,820 --> 00:41:16,490 with the lightning 1096 00:41:20,650 --> 00:41:18,830 Paul so to speak goes up into space and 1097 00:41:22,870 --> 00:41:20,660 that actually can do some does heating 1098 00:41:24,700 --> 00:41:22,880 and it's not just waves associated with 1099 00:41:26,859 --> 00:41:24,710 the lightning but these these electric 1100 00:41:29,470 --> 00:41:26,869 field pulses are very important we've 1101 00:41:31,900 --> 00:41:29,480 looked at instabilities associated with 1102 00:41:34,210 --> 00:41:31,910 the electric jet as a region at the base 1103 00:41:35,440 --> 00:41:34,220 of the ionosphere at the equator often 1104 00:41:37,300 --> 00:41:35,450 the auroral zone we've looked at 1105 00:41:38,730 --> 00:41:37,310 turbulence in space it's so important 1106 00:41:41,740 --> 00:41:38,740 for space weather because it causes 1107 00:41:43,540 --> 00:41:41,750 scintillations of radio wave signal is 1108 00:41:45,310 --> 00:41:43,550 important for navigation you know make 1109 00:41:47,770 --> 00:41:45,320 sure your GPS is giving you the right 1110 00:41:50,109 --> 00:41:47,780 information it could be altering it's 1111 00:41:52,000 --> 00:41:50,119 altered by turbulence in the ionosphere 1112 00:41:53,770 --> 00:41:52,010 and we've used rockets to study that so 1113 00:41:57,180 --> 00:41:53,780 this there's really a tremendous amount 1114 00:41:59,680 --> 00:41:57,190 being done in geo space also in the 1115 00:42:01,660 --> 00:41:59,690 astronomy and solar just getting above 1116 00:42:03,370 --> 00:42:01,670 the atmosphere is allowed us to look at 1117 00:42:05,170 --> 00:42:03,380 wavelengths that are normally absorbed 1118 00:42:07,270 --> 00:42:05,180 by the atmosphere in fact but the whole 1119 00:42:10,210 --> 00:42:07,280 field of UV astronomy was started with 1120 00:42:12,010 --> 00:42:10,220 Sonia Marcus as with x-ray astronomy so 1121 00:42:13,990 --> 00:42:12,020 and and the work being done with solar 1122 00:42:15,310 --> 00:42:14,000 the very high time resolution so it's 1123 00:42:17,380 --> 00:42:15,320 really you know we're just getting 1124 00:42:18,339 --> 00:42:17,390 discoveries and discoveries it's really 1125 00:42:23,470 --> 00:42:18,349 a tremendous program 1126 00:42:25,810 --> 00:42:23,480 Wow this is a question probably for 1127 00:42:29,109 --> 00:42:25,820 Kathy what fuel do sounding rockets used 1128 00:42:31,900 --> 00:42:29,119 we solid propellant rocket motors so it 1129 00:42:34,420 --> 00:42:31,910 kind of has a hard rubbery texture to it 1130 00:42:36,550 --> 00:42:34,430 and it carries all of its metallic 1131 00:42:39,609 --> 00:42:36,560 ingredients and its oxidizer & binder 1132 00:42:41,920 --> 00:42:39,619 all together so solid propellant another 1133 00:42:43,780 --> 00:42:41,930 one probably for you as well what 1134 00:42:46,200 --> 00:42:43,790 happens to the rockets that fall into 1135 00:42:49,000 --> 00:42:46,210 the ocean they become homes for fish 1136 00:42:52,329 --> 00:42:49,010 they do they fall into the ocean they're 1137 00:42:54,940 --> 00:42:52,339 just metallic shells and they they sit 1138 00:42:56,079 --> 00:42:54,950 there and become homes for fish it's 1139 00:42:59,099 --> 00:42:56,089 actually like a good home for fish 1140 00:43:02,020 --> 00:42:59,109 location we live in there yeah Wow 1141 00:43:04,150 --> 00:43:02,030 this is for Doug regarding our oxygen 1142 00:43:05,589 --> 00:43:04,160 leaking into space does this sound 1143 00:43:07,570 --> 00:43:05,599 scarier than it actually is or it is 1144 00:43:09,310 --> 00:43:07,580 actually terrifying it sounds much here 1145 00:43:11,680 --> 00:43:09,320 than it is we've got billions of years 1146 00:43:14,050 --> 00:43:11,690 of oxygen left against us very slowly 1147 00:43:15,700 --> 00:43:14,060 gets like a pinhole for us but when you 1148 00:43:17,320 --> 00:43:15,710 look at other planets it can be a giant 1149 00:43:19,030 --> 00:43:17,330 Gus that's blowing their atmosphere away 1150 00:43:20,440 --> 00:43:19,040 so we just want to see how that pinhole 1151 00:43:22,270 --> 00:43:20,450 work sirs we understand that hurricanes 1152 00:43:24,310 --> 00:43:22,280 elsewhere 1153 00:43:26,800 --> 00:43:24,320 it's a really exciting time for sounding 1154 00:43:28,570 --> 00:43:26,810 rocket research head - at NASA Sun on 1155 00:43:29,980 --> 00:43:28,580 Facebook and Twitter for updates on the 1156 00:43:32,230 --> 00:43:29,990 next four launches that are part of the 1157 00:43:34,480 --> 00:43:32,240 Grand Challenge initiative cusp thanks 1158 00:43:35,740 --> 00:43:34,490 to all of you for joining me and for 1159 00:43:46,870 --> 00:43:35,750 viewers at home for tuning in 1160 00:43:49,120 --> 00:43:46,880 alright there's one thing that stands 1161 00:43:52,000 --> 00:43:49,130 between us and the harsh environment of 1162 00:43:56,680 --> 00:43:52,010 space our atmosphere the part of Earth 1163 00:43:58,630 --> 00:43:56,690 that sustains all life but here in the 1164 00:44:03,430 --> 00:43:58,640 closest town to the North Pole it's 1165 00:44:05,710 --> 00:44:03,440 slowly leaking away a team headed there 1166 00:44:07,210 --> 00:44:05,720 to launch rockets into the leak but it's 1167 00:44:09,670 --> 00:44:07,220 not the lack of atmosphere that they're 1168 00:44:11,710 --> 00:44:09,680 concerned about the leak is a natural 1169 00:44:14,350 --> 00:44:11,720 process that will take billions of years 1170 00:44:16,570 --> 00:44:14,360 so we're not gonna run out anytime soon 1171 00:44:19,210 --> 00:44:16,580 it's part of the larger story of how a 1172 00:44:21,310 --> 00:44:19,220 planet's atmosphere changes over time a 1173 00:44:26,920 --> 00:44:21,320 key factor in the search for life on 1174 00:44:29,650 --> 00:44:26,930 other planets we have 35 residents and 1175 00:44:31,000 --> 00:44:29,660 60 of our team together in a town that 1176 00:44:33,370 --> 00:44:31,010 is completely isolate there's a plane 1177 00:44:36,100 --> 00:44:33,380 twice a week and there's a thousand 1178 00:44:38,830 --> 00:44:36,110 polar bears nearby this is Doug Rowland 1179 00:44:41,860 --> 00:44:38,840 a NASA scientist who's taken his team to 1180 00:44:44,140 --> 00:44:41,870 niala s'en on the island of Svalbard the 1181 00:44:46,960 --> 00:44:44,150 island lies beneath one of two regions 1182 00:44:49,000 --> 00:44:46,970 near Earth's poles called the cusps it's 1183 00:44:50,800 --> 00:44:49,010 where we can access space directly and 1184 00:44:53,440 --> 00:44:50,810 where a hundred tons of atmosphere 1185 00:44:55,540 --> 00:44:53,450 escapes into space each day this escape 1186 00:44:57,880 --> 00:44:55,550 gives clues to how long an atmosphere 1187 00:44:59,770 --> 00:44:57,890 will last and ultimately whether it 1188 00:45:02,320 --> 00:44:59,780 stays around long enough to sustain life 1189 00:45:04,240 --> 00:45:02,330 we're trying to understand is how did 1190 00:45:06,070 --> 00:45:04,250 earth sea atmosphere all overtime and 1191 00:45:08,140 --> 00:45:06,080 how do other planets that might be like 1192 00:45:10,110 --> 00:45:08,150 earth or more dissimilar to earth how 1193 00:45:13,540 --> 00:45:10,120 did their atmospheres evolve 1194 00:45:16,000 --> 00:45:13,550 so Doug joined forces with Johan Moen a 1195 00:45:18,100 --> 00:45:16,010 professor at the University of Oslo who 1196 00:45:18,890 --> 00:45:18,110 started the Grand Challenge initiative 1197 00:45:21,050 --> 00:45:18,900 cus 1198 00:45:23,180 --> 00:45:21,060 it's an international mission to launch 1199 00:45:26,030 --> 00:45:23,190 12 rockets into the Earth's northern 1200 00:45:27,710 --> 00:45:26,040 cusp and Doug he's the mission leader 1201 00:45:34,580 --> 00:45:27,720 for the first two rockets of the 1202 00:45:36,380 --> 00:45:34,590 campaign we don't want to waste our 1203 00:45:38,030 --> 00:45:36,390 rocket the think is three years to make 1204 00:45:40,490 --> 00:45:38,040 the rocket on the 15 minutes to use it 1205 00:45:42,290 --> 00:45:40,500 and that ways my shot here he's using a 1206 00:45:43,970 --> 00:45:42,300 sounding rocket which is different from 1207 00:45:46,340 --> 00:45:43,980 the bigger rockets that carry satellites 1208 00:45:48,530 --> 00:45:46,350 and humans into space it's a small 1209 00:45:50,960 --> 00:45:48,540 suborbital rocket that flies briefly 1210 00:45:52,880 --> 00:45:50,970 into space phlex real-time data for 1211 00:45:56,000 --> 00:45:52,890 around 15 minutes then falls back to 1212 00:45:57,980 --> 00:45:56,010 earth it's affordable quick to build and 1213 00:45:59,960 --> 00:45:57,990 can launch towards a precise point 1214 00:46:02,780 --> 00:45:59,970 the major advantage it is that you can 1215 00:46:04,760 --> 00:46:02,790 launch into a target on the sky but 1216 00:46:08,990 --> 00:46:04,770 there's a limited launch window and only 1217 00:46:11,450 --> 00:46:09,000 one chance to get the launch right we 1218 00:46:12,980 --> 00:46:11,460 have these unguided rockets they go 1219 00:46:14,180 --> 00:46:12,990 where you point them unless the wind is 1220 00:46:15,350 --> 00:46:14,190 blowing because the wind literally just 1221 00:46:16,820 --> 00:46:15,360 blows them over we don't watch when 1222 00:46:19,100 --> 00:46:16,830 there's high wind so to measure the 1223 00:46:21,560 --> 00:46:19,110 winds they launch balloons with GPS 1224 00:46:23,540 --> 00:46:21,570 trackers they're released every fifteen 1225 00:46:25,940 --> 00:46:23,550 to thirty minutes and then they're 1226 00:46:30,940 --> 00:46:25,950 monitored to see how fast the winds are 1227 00:46:38,840 --> 00:46:34,880 bronwen's were 12 13 meters per second 1228 00:46:40,400 --> 00:46:38,850 Augustin 17 which is way off you're 1229 00:46:42,230 --> 00:46:40,410 filled with trepidation oh my gosh with 1230 00:46:48,620 --> 00:46:42,240 this thing that I felt is it gonna work 1231 00:46:51,020 --> 00:46:48,630 after all this so I think we're gonna 1232 00:46:52,490 --> 00:46:51,030 scrub for today I'd like to thank the 1233 00:47:04,160 --> 00:46:52,500 everyone has needs a great performance 1234 00:47:07,100 --> 00:47:04,170 thanks a lot the mission is named 1235 00:47:10,520 --> 00:47:07,110 visualizing ion outflow via neutral atom 1236 00:47:12,470 --> 00:47:10,530 sensing - or visions - in short they're 1237 00:47:15,170 --> 00:47:12,480 looking at how oxygen is getting enough 1238 00:47:17,330 --> 00:47:15,180 energy to escape it's a good test of how 1239 00:47:19,460 --> 00:47:17,340 atmospheric escape works Earth's gravity 1240 00:47:21,320 --> 00:47:19,470 should hold on to the oxygen and yet we 1241 00:47:23,300 --> 00:47:21,330 see this gas shooting off into space 1242 00:47:23,810 --> 00:47:23,310 we're trying to figure out how that 1243 00:47:25,760 --> 00:47:23,820 works 1244 00:47:28,750 --> 00:47:25,770 that is a science question though that's 1245 00:47:31,460 --> 00:47:28,760 been hanging around for four decades 1246 00:47:33,860 --> 00:47:31,470 fortunately anyone can see atmospheric 1247 00:47:35,840 --> 00:47:33,870 escape at the right place and time in 1248 00:47:39,770 --> 00:47:35,850 small bar we are the social polar nights 1249 00:47:42,680 --> 00:47:39,780 is dark all 24 hours his continual 1250 00:47:44,540 --> 00:47:42,690 darkness is key for witnessing this this 1251 00:47:46,670 --> 00:47:44,550 is the cusp Aurora it's a type of 1252 00:47:48,950 --> 00:47:46,680 Northern Lights that appears between 8 1253 00:47:51,080 --> 00:47:48,960 a.m. and noon and you can only see it 1254 00:47:52,880 --> 00:47:51,090 when it's dark during the day it looks 1255 00:47:54,980 --> 00:47:52,890 similar to the Aurora that occurs at 1256 00:47:57,110 --> 00:47:54,990 night but when these iridescent colors 1257 00:47:59,570 --> 00:47:57,120 dance at this hour each day a hundred 1258 00:48:02,750 --> 00:47:59,580 tons of oxygen escapes from Earth's 1259 00:48:05,860 --> 00:48:02,760 atmosphere into space this is over a 1260 00:48:08,750 --> 00:48:05,870 sport no two to chase the Aurora 1261 00:48:11,480 --> 00:48:08,760 working with them is the icecat radar 1262 00:48:13,280 --> 00:48:11,490 and chaough Henriksen Observatory they 1263 00:48:16,100 --> 00:48:13,290 have additional instruments to find the 1264 00:48:19,220 --> 00:48:16,110 Aurora sometimes it's cloudy so we use 1265 00:48:22,190 --> 00:48:19,230 radars to track it the customer we can 1266 00:48:25,070 --> 00:48:22,200 give advice that this is the right type 1267 00:48:27,110 --> 00:48:25,080 of Aurora this is the wall of science a 1268 00:48:28,670 --> 00:48:27,120 collection of data from satellites and 1269 00:48:30,800 --> 00:48:28,680 ground instruments that helps them 1270 00:48:33,500 --> 00:48:30,810 predict where the cusps Aurora will be 1271 00:48:35,029 --> 00:48:33,510 the customer actually isn't a fixed 1272 00:48:37,920 --> 00:48:35,039 point in space it kind of moves you 1273 00:48:40,829 --> 00:48:37,930 what's controlling the cusps movement is 1274 00:48:42,930 --> 00:48:40,839 the Sun interacting with earth our 1275 00:48:45,359 --> 00:48:42,940 planet is surrounded by a magnetic field 1276 00:48:47,339 --> 00:48:45,369 that helps us hold on to our atmosphere 1277 00:48:49,980 --> 00:48:47,349 but at the North and South Poles the 1278 00:48:52,559 --> 00:48:49,990 magnetic field bends inwards creating a 1279 00:48:55,349 --> 00:48:52,569 corridor between Earth and space when 1280 00:48:57,900 --> 00:48:55,359 energy is released from the Sun via a 1281 00:49:00,089 --> 00:48:57,910 solar flare a coronal mass ejection all 1282 00:49:01,980 --> 00:49:00,099 of that energy in the form of radiations 1283 00:49:04,529 --> 00:49:01,990 rides down the magnetic field lines of 1284 00:49:07,140 --> 00:49:04,539 the earth and is transferred and dumped 1285 00:49:09,420 --> 00:49:07,150 into the Earth's atmosphere electrons 1286 00:49:11,160 --> 00:49:09,430 cascade in the Earth's atmosphere they 1287 00:49:13,680 --> 00:49:11,170 accelerate and collide with oxygen 1288 00:49:15,960 --> 00:49:13,690 particles giving them energy to release 1289 00:49:19,109 --> 00:49:15,970 light and sometimes enough energy to 1290 00:49:21,900 --> 00:49:19,119 escape collectively this forms the cusps 1291 00:49:25,529 --> 00:49:21,910 Aurora and streams of escaping oxygen 1292 00:49:27,180 --> 00:49:25,539 this cusp is in constant motion and 1293 00:49:29,190 --> 00:49:27,190 we've got a fixed trajectory you really 1294 00:49:30,630 --> 00:49:29,200 can't aim where the cusp is we have to 1295 00:49:33,569 --> 00:49:30,640 wait for the cuff to come across our 1296 00:49:35,250 --> 00:49:33,579 line of sight we'd like you as soon as 1297 00:49:37,559 --> 00:49:35,260 you see an indication across between too 1298 00:49:39,779 --> 00:49:37,569 close to move it the radar dishes we can 1299 00:49:49,920 --> 00:49:39,789 this is ice get it's been very quiet 1300 00:50:00,700 --> 00:49:55,390 no probably Bob a 60% chance of 1301 00:50:02,620 --> 00:50:00,710 launching when we started seeing this 1302 00:50:04,060 --> 00:50:02,630 really good data this clock started 1303 00:50:06,490 --> 00:50:04,070 counting down and that's when everyone 1304 00:50:08,920 --> 00:50:06,500 realized this is gonna happen we're 1305 00:50:11,650 --> 00:50:08,930 going to launch we're doing everything 1306 00:50:14,950 --> 00:50:11,660 we can to get that launch off before the 1307 00:50:16,930 --> 00:50:14,960 aurora goes away it is really really 1308 00:50:20,280 --> 00:50:16,940 challenging and nerve-wracking at that 1309 00:50:22,600 --> 00:50:20,290 point you can see the tension just rise 1310 00:50:25,390 --> 00:50:22,610 and everybody would not would that 1311 00:50:27,430 --> 00:50:25,400 happens and so everyone's watching their 1312 00:50:30,940 --> 00:50:27,440 instruments getting really excited and 1313 00:50:32,950 --> 00:50:30,950 then at t-minus one minute all of us ran 1314 00:50:42,980 --> 00:50:32,960 out to go see the launch happen 1315 00:50:45,720 --> 00:50:42,990 [Music] 1316 00:50:47,970 --> 00:50:45,730 and then we immediately turn town and 1317 00:50:50,130 --> 00:50:47,980 friend right back in to look at all the 1318 00:50:54,210 --> 00:50:50,140 data that was coming back from the 1319 00:50:56,970 --> 00:50:54,220 instruments you know how much time and 1320 00:50:59,120 --> 00:50:56,980 effort went into it because we all 1321 00:51:02,700 --> 00:50:59,130 worked on it and there's just nothing 1322 00:51:05,190 --> 00:51:02,710 that compares to that feeling everybody 1323 00:51:08,490 --> 00:51:05,200 of every one of those little places no 1324 00:51:11,040 --> 00:51:08,500 really just so happy to contribute to to 1325 00:51:14,190 --> 00:51:11,050 getting the science it's really an 1326 00:51:15,990 --> 00:51:14,200 incredible experience this is a story 1327 00:51:17,310 --> 00:51:16,000 about what it takes to launch science 1328 00:51:19,260 --> 00:51:17,320 instruments into space 1329 00:51:21,810 --> 00:51:19,270 but the real adventure will be in the 1330 00:51:23,610 --> 00:51:21,820 data they sent back hidden within the 1331 00:51:26,310 --> 00:51:23,620 numbers will be answers that reach far 1332 00:51:27,930 --> 00:51:26,320 beyond Earth shedding light on how 1333 00:51:38,450 --> 00:51:27,940 atmospheres throughout the universe 1334 00:51:42,990 --> 00:51:40,920 the jet stream may be the best known 1335 00:51:45,450 --> 00:51:43,000 high-altitude air current but it is not 1336 00:51:47,610 --> 00:51:45,460 the only one measurements from the last 1337 00:51:49,250 --> 00:51:47,620 60 years and observations of the 1338 00:51:51,270 --> 00:51:49,260 movement of space shuttle exhaust 1339 00:51:54,660 --> 00:51:51,280 indicate that there is a region between 1340 00:51:57,270 --> 00:51:54,670 62 and 68 miles up that experiences wind 1341 00:51:59,850 --> 00:51:57,280 speeds of 200 to 300 miles per hour at 1342 00:52:02,280 --> 00:51:59,860 that altitude right on the official 1343 00:52:03,600 --> 00:52:02,290 boundary of space it is extremely hard 1344 00:52:06,180 --> 00:52:03,610 to measure the wind because the 1345 00:52:07,980 --> 00:52:06,190 atmosphere is so thin it is also high 1346 00:52:10,740 --> 00:52:07,990 enough that only powerful rockets are 1347 00:52:12,930 --> 00:52:10,750 capable of reaching it the Atrix or 1348 00:52:15,540 --> 00:52:12,940 anomalous transport rocket experiment 1349 00:52:17,280 --> 00:52:15,550 mission is launching to study this ultra 1350 00:52:20,280 --> 00:52:17,290 high altitude wind over the eastern 1351 00:52:22,380 --> 00:52:20,290 seaboard of the u.s. it will consist of 1352 00:52:23,640 --> 00:52:22,390 five rockets launched within minutes of 1353 00:52:26,940 --> 00:52:23,650 each other from the Wallops Flight 1354 00:52:29,100 --> 00:52:26,950 Facility in Virginia as each rocket 1355 00:52:30,810 --> 00:52:29,110 rises above 50 miles it will release a 1356 00:52:32,580 --> 00:52:30,820 chemical tracer into the upper 1357 00:52:35,640 --> 00:52:32,590 atmosphere dispersed over a horizontal 1358 00:52:38,460 --> 00:52:35,650 range that extends approximately 340 1359 00:52:40,950 --> 00:52:38,470 miles east-southeast for melons 1360 00:52:43,079 --> 00:52:40,960 the tracer is tri methyl aluminum which 1361 00:52:45,359 --> 00:52:43,089 glows when it reacts with oxygen the 1362 00:52:47,819 --> 00:52:45,369 products of this reaction are aluminum 1363 00:52:49,880 --> 00:52:47,829 oxide carbon dioxide and water vapor all 1364 00:52:52,260 --> 00:52:49,890 of which are found in the atmosphere 1365 00:52:53,760 --> 00:52:52,270 cameras positioned in North Carolina and 1366 00:52:55,470 --> 00:52:53,770 New Jersey will watch for the glowing 1367 00:52:58,170 --> 00:52:55,480 trails which will reveal the wings 1368 00:53:00,059 --> 00:52:58,180 direction and speed understanding the 1369 00:53:01,859 --> 00:53:00,069 patterns and causes of this wind will 1370 00:53:04,609 --> 00:53:01,869 help NASA and private corporations with 1371 00:53:07,470 --> 00:53:04,619 feature high altitude low orbit missions 1372 00:53:09,599 --> 00:53:07,480 it is possible to have five rockets for 1373 00:53:12,180 --> 00:53:09,609 one mission because Atrix is using 1374 00:53:14,130 --> 00:53:12,190 sounding rockets sounding rockets are 1375 00:53:16,020 --> 00:53:14,140 small powerful rockets that usually 1376 00:53:19,170 --> 00:53:16,030 carry a payload up and then back down to 1377 00:53:21,180 --> 00:53:19,180 earth but can't carry much weight but 1378 00:53:23,010 --> 00:53:21,190 this makes them far less expensive and a 1379 00:53:36,090 --> 00:53:23,020 good way to make observations at the 1380 00:54:04,339 --> 00:54:00,370 [Music] 1381 00:54:05,990 --> 00:54:04,349 I think the students are here really to 1382 00:54:08,690 --> 00:54:06,000 know what it's like to build a sonic 1383 00:54:11,420 --> 00:54:08,700 rocket payload really what NASA does 1384 00:54:14,670 --> 00:54:11,430 best is you know not only inspiring but 1385 00:54:17,180 --> 00:54:14,680 connecting people with space 1386 00:54:19,950 --> 00:54:17,190 [Music] 1387 00:54:22,410 --> 00:54:19,960 so rock on is just one of those steps 1388 00:54:24,330 --> 00:54:22,420 that create those openings for students 1389 00:54:26,460 --> 00:54:24,340 around the country to have some 1390 00:54:28,620 --> 00:54:26,470 real-world hands-on experience with a 1391 00:54:30,150 --> 00:54:28,630 connection to an actual spaceflight I 1392 00:54:32,160 --> 00:54:30,160 think one of the most rewarding things 1393 00:54:34,350 --> 00:54:32,170 for me to seeing a transformation of the 1394 00:54:36,270 --> 00:54:34,360 students throughout the workshop by the 1395 00:54:38,070 --> 00:54:36,280 time it's Monday or Tuesday and we're 1396 00:54:40,170 --> 00:54:38,080 getting ready for integration they're 1397 00:54:42,330 --> 00:54:40,180 high five and the helpers helpers all 1398 00:54:45,720 --> 00:54:42,340 know them by name and it's just great 1399 00:54:47,070 --> 00:54:45,730 seeing this transformation of someone 1400 00:54:48,350 --> 00:54:47,080 who's so close off someone who's 1401 00:54:50,490 --> 00:54:48,360 completely broken out of their shell 1402 00:54:51,840 --> 00:54:50,500 when I interact with students I want 1403 00:54:53,760 --> 00:54:51,850 them to feel comfortable I want them to 1404 00:54:55,470 --> 00:54:53,770 have fun because I feel like that's when 1405 00:54:57,120 --> 00:54:55,480 they're gonna learn their modes it's not 1406 00:54:59,550 --> 00:54:57,130 uncommon for me when I'm working with 1407 00:55:01,740 --> 00:54:59,560 students to be in costume today even I'm 1408 00:55:04,170 --> 00:55:01,750 Captain Picard from the Starship 1409 00:55:05,580 --> 00:55:04,180 Enterprise try to break down walls when 1410 00:55:08,400 --> 00:55:05,590 I'm working with students and faculty 1411 00:55:11,700 --> 00:55:08,410 but suddenly the focus is on the crazy 1412 00:55:14,220 --> 00:55:11,710 guy and not do I belong here so they're 1413 00:55:16,590 --> 00:55:14,230 most comfortable ready to have fun and 1414 00:55:18,450 --> 00:55:16,600 but also ready to learn we have students 1415 00:55:21,120 --> 00:55:18,460 and that's loitering on two on four 1416 00:55:24,210 --> 00:55:21,130 sisters and passengers and LEDs and a 1417 00:55:25,950 --> 00:55:24,220 bunch of other connectors and they build 1418 00:55:28,290 --> 00:55:25,960 all that up we run them through code 1419 00:55:29,880 --> 00:55:28,300 Monday we finish up the coding and let 1420 00:55:31,920 --> 00:55:29,890 me put everything on the plate do a 1421 00:55:33,900 --> 00:55:31,930 final check-in and we integrate to the 1422 00:55:36,420 --> 00:55:33,910 canisters and it's just a whirlwind of a 1423 00:55:38,220 --> 00:55:36,430 day there are students here who aren't 1424 00:55:40,680 --> 00:55:38,230 engineering students or you know we're 1425 00:55:42,150 --> 00:55:40,690 just majoring in physics or chemistry 1426 00:55:44,280 --> 00:55:42,160 and we had a couple humanities people 1427 00:55:46,170 --> 00:55:44,290 here and in the end they came out with a 1428 00:55:47,700 --> 00:55:46,180 rocket payload so it doesn't really 1429 00:55:50,580 --> 00:55:47,710 matter where you're from but what your 1430 00:55:51,960 --> 00:55:50,590 background is you can do it it's just a 1431 00:55:53,400 --> 00:55:51,970 really unique experience I think 1432 00:55:55,500 --> 00:55:53,410 everyone should do it even if they're 1433 00:55:58,050 --> 00:55:55,510 not interested in engineering or 1434 00:56:00,240 --> 00:55:58,060 anything space related cool I haven't 1435 00:56:02,099 --> 00:56:00,250 been to a launch before by the feeling 1436 00:56:03,510 --> 00:56:02,109 that it's going to be kind of surreal 1437 00:56:05,010 --> 00:56:03,520 I've seen it on TV into seeing it in 1438 00:56:07,080 --> 00:56:05,020 person it's actually a blessing I'm 1439 00:56:07,790 --> 00:56:07,090 expecting it to be loud I'm expecting it 1440 00:56:13,100 --> 00:56:07,800 to be 1441 00:56:14,720 --> 00:56:13,110 so excited like every time I think about 1442 00:56:18,100 --> 00:56:14,730 it my heart starts racing and I'm like 1443 00:56:20,390 --> 00:56:18,110 okay yeah I'm waiting for that day 1444 00:56:23,030 --> 00:56:20,400 launch is definitely the highlight to 1445 00:56:29,000 --> 00:56:23,040 see that thing ignite so everyone still 1446 00:56:37,660 --> 00:56:32,080 three two 1447 00:56:41,020 --> 00:56:39,010 it's hard to take your eyes off the 1448 00:56:43,300 --> 00:56:41,030 flame but if you do just for that moment 1449 00:56:45,280 --> 00:56:43,310 you see life happening all around you 1450 00:56:46,810 --> 00:56:45,290 their brains are recording this for the 1451 00:56:48,670 --> 00:56:46,820 rest of their lives their experience 1452 00:56:51,460 --> 00:56:48,680 something that they've worked hard for 1453 00:56:53,650 --> 00:56:51,470 and to me that's almost as exciting as 1454 00:56:55,840 --> 00:56:53,660 watching the launch I also feel as if 1455 00:56:57,430 --> 00:56:55,850 you can learn this stuff here you're 1456 00:56:58,840 --> 00:56:57,440 ready to take the next steps towards 1457 00:57:01,270 --> 00:56:58,850 what you want to do in the future I 1458 00:57:03,460 --> 00:57:01,280 think just having you know a student who 1459 00:57:05,050 --> 00:57:03,470 clearly been affected by rock on in this 1460 00:57:07,090 --> 00:57:05,060 way in terms of their personality in 1461 00:57:09,760 --> 00:57:07,100 terms of their confidence level kind of 1462 00:57:11,110 --> 00:57:09,770 speaks to the success of the program it 1463 00:57:12,730 --> 00:57:11,120 doesn't really matter if your experiment 1464 00:57:13,630 --> 00:57:12,740 comes back and it didn't work we like to 1465 00:57:16,150 --> 00:57:13,640 make sure that people are comfortable 1466 00:57:17,860 --> 00:57:16,160 here and I think that we do a good job 1467 00:57:19,900 --> 00:57:17,870 doing that and everyone leaves here 1468 00:57:20,920 --> 00:57:19,910 pretty satisfied with the program so I 1469 00:57:29,550 --> 00:57:20,930 can say whenever I want 1470 00:57:34,359 --> 00:57:31,960 constantly shielding us from the sun's 1471 00:57:35,790 --> 00:57:34,369 high-energy particles is the Earth's 1472 00:57:38,560 --> 00:57:35,800 magnetic field 1473 00:57:41,650 --> 00:57:38,570 many imagine this field as a circle 1474 00:57:44,650 --> 00:57:41,660 slightly larger than our planet but it's 1475 00:57:47,740 --> 00:57:44,660 actually shaped like this and near our 1476 00:57:50,280 --> 00:57:47,750 North and South Poles there is a cusp a 1477 00:57:53,080 --> 00:57:50,290 point where two branches of a curve meet 1478 00:57:56,020 --> 00:57:53,090 it's here that a magnetic bubble that 1479 00:57:58,390 --> 00:57:56,030 surrounds us dips inward creating a 1480 00:58:01,180 --> 00:57:58,400 funnel of magnetic lines that touch down 1481 00:58:03,580 --> 00:58:01,190 to earth this funnel allows the sun's 1482 00:58:06,250 --> 00:58:03,590 high-energy particles to race toward our 1483 00:58:09,420 --> 00:58:06,260 planet and deposit themselves in our ion 1484 00:58:13,000 --> 00:58:09,430 asphere 80 to 800 kilometers above Earth 1485 00:58:15,310 --> 00:58:13,010 we can even see the result they create 1486 00:58:18,010 --> 00:58:15,320 beautiful Aurora similar to the 1487 00:58:20,710 --> 00:58:18,020 spectacular displays at night but on the 1488 00:58:22,510 --> 00:58:20,720 day side of Earth and only visible to 1489 00:58:26,020 --> 00:58:22,520 the naked eye during the long polar 1490 00:58:27,880 --> 00:58:26,030 night now scientists who want to learn 1491 00:58:30,250 --> 00:58:27,890 more about effects of these particles 1492 00:58:32,950 --> 00:58:30,260 are embarking on a special initiative 1493 00:58:36,910 --> 00:58:32,960 that is taking place from December 2018 1494 00:58:39,220 --> 00:58:36,920 to January 2020 in a coordinated effort 1495 00:58:42,190 --> 00:58:39,230 between multiple countries to understand 1496 00:58:45,099 --> 00:58:42,200 the physics of the polar cusp scientists 1497 00:58:47,859 --> 00:58:45,109 from NASA and the US as well as from 1498 00:58:50,380 --> 00:58:47,869 Japan Norway Canada and Great Britain 1499 00:58:53,740 --> 00:58:50,390 have launched the Grand Challenge 1500 00:58:55,870 --> 00:58:53,750 initiative cusp a series of salvan 1501 00:58:57,540 --> 00:58:55,880 rocket missions that will provide the 1502 00:58:59,920 --> 00:58:57,550 data needed to conduct nine 1503 00:59:03,700 --> 00:58:59,930 unprecedented studies of near-earth 1504 00:59:06,130 --> 00:59:03,710 space at the polar regions this series 1505 00:59:09,250 --> 00:59:06,140 will help scientists glean answers to a 1506 00:59:11,440 --> 00:59:09,260 number of questions about the cusps why 1507 00:59:14,410 --> 00:59:11,450 is our atmosphere leaking out into space 1508 00:59:16,480 --> 00:59:14,420 from the cusps how and why do the 1509 00:59:19,089 --> 00:59:16,490 turbulent hot patches of dense plasma 1510 00:59:22,180 --> 00:59:19,099 that exists inside the aurora region 1511 00:59:24,579 --> 00:59:22,190 disrupt global communications what